ITC Recent Activity, By Lisa C.
Roy January 28th, 2010
(A Comment by Lisa C, lifted from the Irish Taxi Forum here on the site)
I have thought long and hard on this since I 1st heard about it and have looked at both sides of the argument as best I can. I went back to the drawing board after reading Paul OBs posts and I have come to the following conclusions.
While nobody could ever question Frank Byrnes commitment to the cause of rectifying the bad decision making that has brought the industry to where it is today both with TDFC and ITC it is my opinion that the decision making process which has lead him and the ITC Executive to the conclusion that drivers should make themselves illegal as a form of protest is ultimately flawed and equally as bad. While I have been a staunch supporter of both TDFC and ITC and still believe in the value of a national association and a protest group at no stage did I or would I to date have agreed with any driver taking part in illegal activity during the course of his daily business and will not support the ITC in this endeavour even if Frank is at the helm.
At various different meetings there has been talk of individuals going on hunger strike, chaining themselves to various offices, setting their cars of fire, abandoning their cars etc and while some of these suggestions are off the wall I would have supported the driver/s in any of the above endeavours as his/her choice was just that a choice to take personal action which did not affect the well being of others.
Yes when we protested on O’Connell St and at the other protests there was inconvenience to the public due to delays caused but no member of the public was put in a situation where the vehicle they entered was uninsured and driven by an unlicensed driver. Those of us who were there to stay for the long haul were making decisions for ourselves and not for others. Were we not protesting against illegal activity among other things?
Putting all of that aside it is abundantly clear to me after a year of involvement that while most drivers are unhappy with most of the current representation they are not going to blindly follow the new kids on the block whoever they may be just for the sake of it. Gerry who posts on this site is a very good example of a taxi driver who while not happy with the current status quo will not back any organisation just for the sake of it. If he is paying his money he wants to know what he is getting for it. The only way that that can be achieved is through hard work by those who wish to represent their fellow drivers and a proven track record. To date none of the representative bodies have put together a portfolio clearly showing what attempts at negotiation has been made and the results of those attempts, who has been spoken to, what their responses were, who is favourable to attempting to rectify the current situation etc. Drivers get a bit of news from one source another bit of news from another. Some of it tallies some of it is contradictory all of it is confusing and it appears to most that still nothing is being done, even though that may not be the case. The human condition is to want to see proof.
While we were talking desperation this time last year before all of this kicked off I don’t believe that most would have thought that things could sink so low and still for all the protesting and talking nothing in real terms has been achieved by anybody for the ordinary independent working driver to date. Drivers and their familes are living hand to mouth at best in most cases. Frank talked about holidays in a recent post. My reality is will there be enough money each week to put food in our belly’s, keep a roof over our heads and keep us warm. I don’t know what a holiday is unless it is week where I don’t get phone calls from creditors looking for money that we don’t have. I was better off in the 80s and I sure a lot of others out there could say the same.
So for sense of argument let’s say that Johnny Reds licence is due for renewal in March. ITC propose that he does not renew as a form of protest. He duly informs the CTR that he is in dispute with them and does not renew. He then continues to drive and one of the following happens.
(a) He is stopped found by the Gardai or CTR enforcement officers to be operating without a licence ends up in court and is put in prison.
Can he expect the support of the general public? No way. He was operating illegally and putting us at risk. Throw away the key.
Can he expect the support of the media? Absolutely not they will have a field day about ignorant, uneducated, uncouth taxi drivers who refuse to follow the law of the land. He will be the subject of Prime Time and Frontline programmes. Vincent Browne will dedicate a segment of his programme to the subject and the general consensus will be that more regulation is needed within the Taxi Industry as it is obvious that they cannot control themselves. Joe Duffy will ask the public what they think and the answer will be that the state should take over the taxi industry entirely and all taxi drivers should become employees of the state and do what they are told. After all they are a scruffy bad tongued shower of ignoramuses anyway. Joe will recommend that Tommy Gorman come out of retirement to chair an advisory committee on the subject.
Can he expect the support of his fellow drivers? At best he will get the support of other protesting drivers. The rest will say that wasn’t the way to go and I don’t agree with it or great one less to compete with.
Will ITC pay our bills and keep a roof over mine and my daughter’s heads while he is in prison? I am not aware of their current financial situation but I would hazard a guess that they would not so we end up out on the street.
After all of this Johnny Red has his day in court and actually wins his case. Great he walks out onto the steps of the court along with the ITC Executive, his fellow protesters and supporters; he is carried high down the quays and hailed as a hero. He then goes to the hostel that I and our daughter are staying in as we are of course now homeless and sleeps his first night in a long time a free and vindicated man. The next day is start of the rest of his life. Off he heads to his mothers house to pick up the car from her driveway where it has sat during his time in prison and goes back to work. NOT.
His licence has lapsed. He must reapply. He must sit the full Skills Test. His vehicle licence has possibly lapsed during his time in prison. I couldn’t afford to renew it I was trying to keep my head above water. He will have to reapply He must try to get an insurance company to insure him again as his previous insurance was deemed null and void due to the fact that he did not have a valid SPSV Driver Licence.
BUT SURE IT WAS ALL WORTH IT TO PROVE A POINT
(b) Johnny Red is driving down the road and is involved in an accident. A pedestrian is killed and his passengers are seriously injured. Johnny knows he was illegally operating and that his insurance is null and void. He is arrested at the scene. The incident is all over the papers and on the news both domestic and international. The case goes to court and Johnny Red is convicted of driving without the proper licence and insurance and is banned from holding both a drivers licence and an SPSV licence for life. The innocent victims are years waiting for any form of compensation and their families start a campaign to bring a civil action against the ITC and its principles as they were the ones who in a position of authority encouraged Johnny to act in the manner that he did as a form of protest over a €250.00 licence renewal. Senior politicians and celebrities give the families their full backing and Johnny’s family disown him due to the shame he has brought them. Licensed drivers and the members of the JTC condemn his actions and are scathing to say the least about the decision that ITC made which Johnny blindly followed. Tommy Gorman is brought out of retirement as the face of the industry in an attempt to calm public fears and get across the point that all of the representative bodies are not acting in the same irresponsible manner as ITC. ITC is disbanded and Mr. Gorman accompanied by Kathleen Doyle makes a public statement condemning the incident. It is believed that this action has set back the industry by 20years or more.
BUT SURE IT WAS ALL WORTH IT TO PROVE A POINT
(c) Johnny Red is involved in an accident with another Taxi Driver (Johnny Blue) who is not part of the dispute and is operating within the confines of the law. Johnny Blue is only 18 months at the job and had bought a brand new momo to start his new business out of his redundancy when the building trade went tits up. Johnny Blue knows nothing about the history of the industry and cares less. He made a bad choice getting into taxi-ing in the first place and he just wants to keep his head above water. He doesn’t talk to anybody on the ranks. He is afraid that he might get into trouble as his plate number is a high one. €7,000 in damage is done to Johnny Blues car which he has to claim from his own insurance as he needs to get back on the road and doesn’t have time to wait for the legal wrangling to conclude, thus losing his no claims bonus and suffering an increase in his premium. The insurance company’s decide that the added risk of uninsured taxi drivers operating is justification to increase the cost of all SPSV Insurance. After all they have to cover their risk. Taxi Drivers who to date were not bothered what the protesters were doing are now up in arms and call on the CTR to get these illegal’s off the road. Talk on the ranks and in the Kesh is all about how all those ITC fcukers are after doing is costing drivers more money and poor aul Johnny Blue and his jammer. Jezuz sure she’s his pride and joy he was always out polishin her and topin up oil and water. She got more attention than his missus. Sure why wouldn’t he, he spends more time with her these days. It doesn’t matter that he is a new boy sure we are all in the same boat. The lads all get together and ensure that Johnny Blue will be able to earn a crust while is chariot is off the road by putting together a rota of lend cars. irishtaxi.org organise this through their site. After all they don’t want him havin to rent. Here hang on a minute wasn’t them ITC heads always goin on about doin away with renters. The fcukin thicks. What the lads on ranks and in the Kesh won’t do to the ITC fcukers and Johnny Red isn’t worth talking about. Every 7 seater and WAT on the ranks becomes an unofficial meeting place to discuss this issue. Lifelong enemies put their differences aside for the duration. Any support ITC had amongst drivers dwindles away as the CTR specially set up 24hr hotline is light up with legal drivers reporting the illegals. Fcuked if I’m goin to end up like Johnny Blue they say.
One good thing comes out of it all. For the first time in years the industry is united on something. The ITC has to go.
BUT SURE IT WAS ALL WORTH IT TO PROVE A POINT
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- Comments(93)
Johnny Red is a hen pecked spineless fcukin wimp.
Seriously though, this fee was brought in without proper consultation and we desperately need to stand up and be counted, who’s got a better idea?
How about you all just pay it and get on with life?
Oh, and if you can’t afford to pay it….? You always have another choice. A new career.
Great post by Lisa C. Sensible joined up thinking.
@Bobo. You have identified the course of action that will prevail. As a group we don’t have the balls to stand up for ourselves in any way. As regards a new career, it may have escaped your attention that the live register is approaching half a million, having increased by nearly 60% in the year to Nov. 2009.
@ Bobo. Don’t get me wrong Bobo I don’t agree with the increase. There is no justification for it and despite being asked by many to provide a breakdown of the administrative costs that warrant an increase of €247.00 the CTR has to date to the best of my knowledge failed to do so.
Now like the rest of us I have no issue paying extra within reason for an improved service but I want to know I am getting my moneys worth eg. M&S for a special occasion vs Lidl for ones everyday needs. I don’t believe that the cost as such is the big issue here it is the level of increase with a statement that it is to cover administrative costs without any real justification that is causing the problem. In essence it is the same service provided but costing 800% more (I stand to be corrected on this as mathematics was never my forte) but if I am correct and you the same % increase was applied to your next driving licence renewal you would not be a happy man either. In saying that becoming illegal to attempt prove a point is not the way to go and I suspect that Stephen is on a wind up as knowing him they way I do he has completed joined up thinking as I have.
Sorry Guys and gals I do stand corrected. I am informed that the actual precentace increase in the SPSV Driver Licence fee is a staggering 8233%. TO COVER ADMINISTRATION COSTS. Now apply the same logic for the next increase in your driving licience. Can you now see why people are annoyed.
Sorry Guys and gals I do stand corrected. I am informed that the actual precentage increase in the SPSV Driver Licence fee is a staggering 8233%. TO COVER ADMINISTRATION COSTS. Now apply the same logic for the next increase in your driving licience. Can you now see why people are annoyed.
Drivers could at least put up illegal posters/stickers on their side/rear windows letting the public know the shit that Cathleen is throwing at them? Twenty thousand taxis with illegal protest posters would at least make a point.!
I’m sorry Tirnanog but you are way off the mark on this one. Illegal is Illegal and should be off the road full stop.
Lisa made the point. Well put ! I cannot disagree with anything she has to say, only add my comments:
No matter how obscene the hike in licence renewal fees, Kathleen has us by the short and curlers. No matter what, there can NEVER be a justification for driving illegally (i.e. uninsured).
The one and only way we have is to vote the current fcukers out of government. With so many vested interests, that is unlikely to lead to the result we want, either. We won’t even be allowed to stand at the gates of the Dail and give them the kick in their ar.. eh, bottom they so richty deserve when they slink out the building with their file boxes. And even if we manage to get rid of the likes of KD, she just will give us her superior smirk as she gets in her limo to enjoy her grossly inflated pension to make way for her successor. Who will just take up where she left. No lads and lasses, unless we can get us a remake of Easter 1916 nothing much will change, not for the better anyway. The fat cats will get the cream, the other cats the milk. By the time it is our turn at the churn there won’t even be enough skim left to feed us all.
That is the hard reality. Take it or leave it.
Eventually, it will all sort itself out. Many will be forced out of the industry. Mark my words, this is only the beginning of a shake-up. One by one many of he taxi drivers will reach the end of the financial line. It is just a Monopoly game. This week my gross take was just over 150 Euro. I have the week-end to make up but it does not look good. If I were to be just at the point where my licence is up for renewal, or I have another large bill I cannot postpone paying I will be fcuked !
I can nearly paper my walls with “final demands”. But I had to burn them during the cold snap to keep warm.
So eventually many drivers will fall through the cracks. If the economy stays shaky, new entrants still will take their place.
God help us all – nobody else does !
The only people that are going to be able to keep a taxi on the road are the double jobbers, no matter what tax bill you hit them with they will just squeeze in more hours and pay it, and then you have the generosity of the social that are giving hand out’s to anyone that plays a racist card.
Firstly , the recipients of the states largesse who received state aid to enter this trade should as a matter of course be made accountable and repay any sums advanced to
begin taxiing.
The reps handed in a letter of protest but still have their noses in the trough, Ussher
stepped down using as an excuse, his health was being damaged and got Frank Moore
to replace him ?
Oh what an onerous task it must be to sit down for upwards of two hours a month while
your financial supporters are facing oblivion!!
at least ITC are highlighting the plight of operators while others sit idly by.
Roy,
A point of clarification,
The ITC do not advise anyone to break the law. The refusal to pay the increase by members of the ITC committee has been well thought out and we have recieved legal advice. We only ask that you support those of us on the committee, who are not going to pay and envisage court proceedings, by signing our petition which we began taking signatures for today.
Once again, and as stressed in previous posts, we do not encourage anyone to break the law. We already have plenty of volunteers and it only takes one case to go to court to set the precedent. That doesn’t mean you should be happy paying it but you should not refuse to do so on our advice. If you wish to express your unhappiness then do so by supporting the members of the ITC committee who will not be paying by signing our petition.
Hopefully, if you have or when you do pay it will be possible to get it back.
This is the first in a series of steps to address our ever worsening situation. More when possible.
Thanks.
Frank Byrne.
The Irish Taxi Council
email: info@irishtaxicouncil.org
ph: 087 1471818
ARE YOU HAPPY to pay the regulators unfair, unjustified and unaffordable 247e increase in your spsv licence fee? Well the members of the Irish Taxi Council are not and have told the regulator so. We are now in official dispute and will not be paying this increase until its resolved. If you support our campaign please sign our nationwide petition and refuse to pay.
ARE YOU HAPPY that you will be paying an EXTRA charge for the new suitability test and now have to go to 2 places to get passed out? If not then join our campaign and sign our petition.
ARE YOU HAPPY that the 9 year rule has been brought forward to next year and we won’t be able to get finance. We should have the higher standard and dump the 9 year rule, we can’t afford both. What difference is a 10 year old merc to a 5 year old heap? It should be about standards only. If you agree with this sign our petition and support your colleagues and friends around the country.
ARE YOU HAPPY that you will have to sit a test before 2012 to stay in an industry you may have been working in for 20 or more years? The regulator says “back to school for you”! If your angry about this sign our petition and get on board.
ARE YOU HAPPY being fined 250e every time you try and get on a rank while you watch illegal’s laugh at you as they pull on to the top of the rank and steal your work? Are you happy that they’re getting rent allowance, medical cards and every other benefit that we don’t get? Are you happy that there are 9819 paye workers with taxi licenses including teachers, postmen, firemen and everyone under the sun double jobbing in our industry and making it impossible for us to feed our families and pay our bills? Then sign our petition and show this regulator and this Government the power of the Taxi industry vote.
DO WE HAVE ANYTHING to be happy about?? NO. So join up with the ITC and express your anger by signing our petition. Show the unity that is possible within this industry and lets protect our families future.
The ITC is a voluntary, democratically elected, nationally recognised organisation representing FULL TIME TAXI DRIVERS ONLY. If your an illegal or a double jobber DON’T SIGN our petition, we don’t need your support.
If you want further updates and information please fill in your mobile no for web text or give your email address for web updates. If your interested in joining a branch of the \ITC please talk to the petition gatherers or speak to a local member of an affiliated association or contact directly by phone or email. Thank you for your support, lets stick together.
SAVE YOUR JOB
If the first paragraph is not advising people to break the law then I don’t know what is.
Where did the figure of 9819 paye workers come from.At present the carraige office who are responsible for the issue of licences do not keep a record of any other employment that is carried out by a SPSV licence holder.Any such figure would of course include those who are employed in a private capacity as a driver but as no such figures are available as no such data was collected the statement has to be false a lie an untruth to agitate people into supporting a ridicilous campaign (publish the official data that you used to come to this figure)The genius behind this plan is its effectiveness if we assume that only about 10% of licence holders will have to renew this year.The policy committee of ITC have chosen a minority issue to make their stand on ARE YOU HAPPY TO BE EXCLUDED
Did people not want all the shitboxes off the road When they thought that it wouldnt effect them.They were stupid enough to think any change would only apply to somebody else.WHY ARE YOU NOT HAPPY YOU ASKED FOR IT
The test will exclude some of our best drivers .You can get a masters degree in any subject in the world in 5 years .Write a paper and win a nobel prize.If after 5 years you cannot pass a simple test then it must be assumed that you are not suitable for the job ARE YOU NOT HAPPY TO SEE AN IMPROVEMENT IN STANDARDS.
of course we are not happy being fined 250 for illegal ranking but you have not offered any solution to the shortage of rankspace .I do recall a previous rep body meeting with the garda to request that fines should be imposed on drivers .I personally would of appealed for a more understanding approach from the guards as we provide a vital cog in crowd control and help to disperse crowds efficiently and this reduces the policing budget NO IM NOT HAPPY THAT MY FELLOW DRIVERS REQUESTED THAT I BE FINED
John that figure is actually the number of PAYE workers who have TC2 designation as of last year. This figure does not relate to the taxi industry other than those who have a PAYE job and hold TC2 designation and are legitimacy driving a taxi are included in this figure.
This is the type of propaganda that gets me really annoyed. Half truths, liberal with the truth shite that always gets found out in the end but too late for some poor idiot who takes it at face value and acts upon it. This has to stop. It is lies full stop and not the 1st time that ITC have been caught out in this type of behaviour. It is this nonsense that is undermining any hardship argument put forward by the industry and boosts the public and press perception that the industry as whole is prone to being liberal with the truth
I went looking for the source of this information and found the figure on the TDFC website see link below.
http://taxidriversforchange.org/letters.html#tommy
@FB.
Lisa kinda has ye by the short an curlies there. It does say “sign our nationwide petition and refuse to pay”. The only precedent you are likely to set is that the law must be obeyed and you must pay or stop driving your taxi. Of course they’ll all support you if you’re not asking them to do anything but will they support you when you have no job to go to?
We know that the correct procedure was not followed in imposing the fee. In my mind that is enough to justify mass protest but unfortunately I’m in a small minority in holding that view. The only other options are judicial review or constitutional challenge, the latter being unlikely to succeed in my opinion.
The 10,000 odd with TC2 designation would be more correctly described as possible licence holders.
@John M.
The point you are missing on the skills test is that many experienced drivers will just conclude that it is simply not worth the hassle of sitting exams. Men who have been driving taxis all their adult lives are being treated like schoolchildren. How can a Government and Regulator which have proved themselves incompetent in every regard dare to question the competence of a highly experienced driver with a clean driving licence and clear complaints record?
You, like me, read and contribute to our forum on a regular basis. That would put you among the best informed drivers, perhaps numbering 30 out of the 21,000 who operate taxis. Among this group noone will fear or fail this test. Hence they don’t give a flying fcuk about those that do. However, whats more worrying is that this group really believe that there will be less competition as a result of removing drivers. I say it again, there are almost half a million on the dole, drivers will ber replaced, black with white, white with black, legal with bogey, bogey with legal, it matters not a jot. There will be one less taxi on the streets.
To quote bht “Too many midgets, not enough canes”
John the ol’ heads a bit sore this morning. A good few typos in that, particulary the last sentence of the penultimate paragraph which should read:
There will not be one less taxi on the streets.
Dear all
I see some of your fellow drivers have taken to masterbating their ego in public.Strident strong minded men who intend to stand firm against the actions of the regulatory authority and refuse point blank to pay their licence fee.
I fail to see why a driver with up to 20 years experience should fear taking a test.I once taught a budgie to recite the works of WB Yates in two years four months and six days.
I see my secret amour Stephen state that as little as 30 drivers have enough interest in the future of their industry to inform themselves of what is going on.This possibly explains why some drivers are willing to jeprodise their livliehood by partaking in this action.Ambrose once witheld his fee to the golf club in protest at some rule change .He was subsiquently omitted from the register of members.I do hope people understand the potential for self destruction in this policy and that the legal advice they have got is from a qualified barrister and not a know all barrack room lawyer .You must keep all the reciepts for legal advice as all your legal expences will be recoverable if you win.
Last evening I took a cab from Ranelagh triangle to the national concert hall.It was an appalling journey.The car was very old and not very clean.I did so worry as I was wearing mothers white silk wedding dress as we had intended to attend for drinks before the performance.We got caught up in traffic on Mount street and were late for drinks.The driver a man from the west of Ireland seemed to struggle with the directions as we had never come this way before.We gave him a tip ot 14 cent tip that will cover the cost of his licence for one day at least.Ambrose who himself had harboured ideas of becoming a cabbie asked the gent had he been driving long .The man from the west said he had been working as a bricklayers assistant for John Sisk and had been made redundant so he thought he would have a go as he said at this oul taxi game. Sure its only cost me 12 nicker for the licence and 3 for the test sure you would have to be mad not to give it a go 15 quid sure you would stick that on an Irish horse at cheltenham just cos he was irish.Is that why so many people have taxi licences Ambrose asked him because they are so cheap.Well said the man from the west the brother owns this yolk and he drives it when he is off work and now that the department is on a work to rule and there is no overtime sure he is doing 50 hours a week.for 15 nicker I can spin around when he isint useing it.The regulator must do something to stop this she must improve the test and increase the fee to stop people just walking into this trade.Passengers want quality and service you must think about your passengers not just yourself .
The concert was glorious the second movement was devine and we retired to the Conrad for supper with some friends.As we left the hotel the same taxi was passing by the driver recognised us and stopped .Taxi missus he shouted.No thankyou Ambrose answered we shall walk.If quality and service does not improve I fear more people will walk or take the bus.This action by ITC wants the new rules suspended and replaced with what?
I will away now and prepare to sit my masters degree in applied electro magnetic resistance theory by means of quantum multiplicational diametrics .I started my course allmost five years ago.
Dymphna
@ Stephen
You get my goat the same way as ITC does at this stage. You and Roy tore strips of me in the past for daring to ask friends of mine with years of experience in training and professional development to put together a preparation course for drivers who were nervous about the skills development programme and those with reading and or writing difficulties. You accused me of attempting to profit from these drivers even though I had made it clear at the time that any moneys that I might make would be reinvested into ITC by way of personal donation (not that that was any of your business).
http://irishtaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=3468.30
You and Roy p***ed all over the idea that any driver worth his salt might need help and you personally found the idea that supporters of ITC described by Frank as some of their best drivers might fall into this category a matter for derogatory comments.
Your arrogance knows no bounds Stephen. You actually put yourself up as somebody who could assist in training people when one of your many personas rat catcher appears to feel that acting in an illegal manner is perfectly justified.
http://irishtaxi.org/forum/index.php?topic=4341.0
In addition you have done a 180 and from calling Frank a fcukwit to expounding his virtues over a protest calling for drivers to become illegal.
Stephen if I was confident that your ramblings had no adverse effect on anybody else I would find you amusing. As it is I find your actions irritating at best and bloody irresponsible.
Make up your many minds and be done with it the “no passion for this shit” rubbish is getting very old and the bouncing from view point to view point is stale at this stage.
Lisa, my dear lady, what on earth makes you think that men who fear the test itself would present themselves for public training or mare accurately, public humiliation.
My opinion was then, as it is now, that ALL drivers should attempt the test before seeking “help”. I also reiterate my willingness to provide such help if and when required, along with other posters who made similar offers.
Your recent U-turn is most amusing, I note you are now applauding Ms. Doyle’s plans, although you generally dismiss your numerous and frequent changes of heart as flippancy, what a flippant young lady you are!
If a rep isn’t being called a fcukwit by someone or other he isn’t doing the job properly, I reckon Frank understands my methods of communication, don’t you? For the record, while I support Frank’s action, I still don’t see any worthwhile proposals from ITC.
Stephen so you advocate that individuals who are already nervous and stressed should present themselves without any assistance to attempt an exam that could possibly mean the difference between a livelihood or not. And if they fail this exam what in the name of god would make you dream or imagine that they would ever seek assistance in order to overcome their disability.
It is obvious that your experience with those who have learning disabilities or difficulties is extremely limited.
Regarding your incorrect perception of a u-turn on my behalf. I have not once changed my opinion regarding illegal activity of any type particularly when those actions could affect others. I have changed my opinion of Frank Byrne and ITC. Unlike Snatcher, Rat Catcher, Stealth, Stephen oh and not forgetting Ignatious all of whom are your varying different personalities no matter what my avatar my belief is still the same and I don’t sit in the back of vans on O’Connell St with Frank Byrne in the wee small hours of the morning planning his get route out because his mouth is bigger than his balls.
I could even forgive him losing his bottle if he had of been honest about it with those who had actually stayed on protest for the duration, but to then stand up and proclaim to the people who had supported him and without whom there would have been no press opportunity that they had achieved something when he knew that nothing had been secured all because of a rumour about the riot police and then on the back of a lie attempt to garner people support. We got exactly what was on those 2 pieces of paper and I will leave it up to those who protested to decide what that was.
In my opinion you were right Stephen, nothing was gained from the protest and 2 days pay was lost.
Frank and the ITC have been caught out in untruths and have again attempted on this occasion to back peddle from an ill-conceived idea with untruths yet again. Renewals of licences have already started and he hopes that people might get a refund. Would put you in mind of the way some other rep bodies went.
I appreciate your point that the word Fcukwit is actually now a term of respect. It’s a new one on me but sure as I always say you learn something new everyday. As you are such a supporter of the current action proposed by ITC I take it that your renewal is due soon and I can only wish you luck in your action even though I don’t agree with it.
Lisa,
You did say “bring it on” in the reference to the skills test and suggest that there is no such thing as double jobbers. Yes I do advocate everyone attempt the exam. The sad reality is that some will just walk away, offering training won’t change that.
They wouldn’t have needed riot police to shift us, they could merely refuse access on Saturday morning, assuming the bed and breakfast brigade were going to desert again on Friday evening had the thing continued, which it wasn’t going to anyway. The discussion you refer to took place in a pub, not a van.
I have never questioned Frank’s honesty, by point of fact he dismissed possible exit strategies involving mere use of semantics out of hand. They did get written commitments and recognition. The fact that the written commitments amounted to nothing was not obvious. Given the fact that the men in receipt of the documents were operating on no sleep, a visit to a local solicitors office for a deconstruction may have been advisable but I think we were all at a stage that we just wanted to believe anything that appeared obvious.
In any event, what’s done is done, we need to look forward not backwards.
@ stephen. thank you for the clarification.
Is this not one of the worst weeks ever !!!.
@ chester. worse than worse. came a hairs breath to hitting the wall today
under the heading too many taxis
# Stephenon 23 Jan 2010 at 1:31 pm
@Chester. Just on the subject of Gaelige, you’re easily impressed, among the semi literate nonsense they actually addressed one of their letters to an Garda “Siochanna”!
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Tis true that, they did.
It has just been brought to my attention the affection my partner has for your industry.As Dymphna has informed all I have been a casualty of the present downturn and find myself at a loose end at the moment.I have taken on some consultancy work for companies who are restructuring.Dymphna has asked me to take a look at your industry and make some observations that might help to direct your industry on the road to recovery.I have noticed that your drivers are at present continuously in conflict with the Department of Transport and the Regulator.One major omission in all of the protests and proposed actions.Is the total disreguard for your customer.It is the customer who pays your wages not the Dep of Transport and not the Regulator.Let me tell you Passengers do not want to use a filthy dirty vehicle .Passengers do not want to use an old uncared for vehicle.Passengers do not want to be taken on a tour of the area by a driver who is lacking in knowledge.Now some drivers are proposing to drive their passenger while not holding a valid licence.If you wish to hold a protest focus on the safety elements of the industry .Highlight the issue surrounding drivers who have completed a full work shift and then transfer straight into their taxi and drive for another work shift which can result in some drivers working for a 20 hour shift.Explain how many drivers are driving on Irish licences that have been gained by swapping another licence without having to complete the theory test.This means that some drivers have never been quized on the rules of the road.You must focus on the needs of your passengers.Passengers only care about their safety and the availability of a taxi when they want one.Price then becomes secondary but will have a bearing on some users decision on which cabs to use.So being someone who is qualified in the implementation of iso standards .My advise is to focus your energies on informing the taxi user on the safety elements and the risks they face.Try and get the end user on your side.At present any protest by taxi is seen as a protest to promote a protectionist agenda .The taxi passenger wants a safe cost efficient professional service.The proposals that are being promoted by the regulatory authorities seem to be a move in the right direction and should be fully supported by all taxi men.
Your Customer
Ambrose H. Fairchild
It has just been brought to my attention the affection my partner has for your industry.As Dymphna has informed all I have been a casualty of the present downturn and find myself at a loose end at the moment.I have taken on some consultancy work for companies who are restructuring.Dymphna has asked me to take a look at your industry and make some observations that might help to direct your industry on the road to recovery.I have noticed that your drivers are at present continuously in conflict with the Department of Transport and the Regulator.One major omission in all of the protests and proposed actions.Is the total disreguard for your customer.It is the customer who pays your wages not the Dep of Transport and not the Regulator.Let me tell you Passengers do not want to use a filthy dirty vehicle .Passengers do not want to use an old uncared for vehicle.Passengers do not want to be taken on a tour of the area by a driver who is lacking in knowledge.Now some drivers are proposing to drive their passenger while not holding a valid licence.If you wish to hold a protest focus on the safety elements of the industry .Highlight the issue surrounding drivers who have completed a full work shift and then transfer straight into their taxi and drive for another work shift which can result in some drivers working for a 20 hour shift.Explain how many drivers are driving on Irish licences that have been gained by swapping another licence without having to complete the theory test.This means that some drivers have never been quized on the rules of the road.You must focus on the needs of your passengers.Passengers only care about their safety and the availability of a taxi when they want one.Price then becomes secondary but will have a bearing on some users decision on which cabs to use.So being someone who is qualified in the implementation of iso standards .My advise is to focus your energies on informing the taxi user on the safety elements and the risks they face.Try and get the end user on your side.At present any protest by taxi is seen as a protest to promote a protectionist agenda .The taxi passenger wants a safe cost efficient professional service.The proposals that are being promoted by the regulatory authorities seem to be a move in the right direction and should be fully supported by all taxi men.
Your Customer
Ambrose H. Fairchild
so good he said it twice
Lisa C just a comment on the comment of the comment that i made about too many taxis stephen commented that 250 yo yo’s would not buy you a holiday (I never said it would) and where in my comment did i put gaeilge and easily impressed in the same sentence.
Lisa you are all over the place, and i beleave you are doing the taxi industry a grave injustice, where did the hate come from.
john boy
lisa
all taxi drivers have minds and do not need to be told who to support and a letter from someone as bitter as you will not help, a better way would be to set up your own group then you would be able to have full control
john boy
good man john boy. back to waltons mountain with you
. tell the rest of the clan i said hello
Has anyone ever seen in any city around the world the same number of taxis that where driving around Dublin city last night. How could foreign investors come into this country and not stop laughing from the moment they leave the Dublin airport terminal and travel trough the city to Government buildings for that ‘big contract’. the TR must be at this stage not only an embarrassment to the the drivers but to this government who put her there.
Sit the test and fly it. Without refering to the Manual most would score in the 70′s. Anyone one with literacy issues is duly catered for as are those with Dyslexia etc.
Anticipation of death might be worse than the reality of it all.
Chester, CTR has merely done what the Government told it to do.
Hippocampus, as with most issues perception is the problem. In the current economic climate men who haven’t been to school or sat tests for many years may well conclude that it simply isn’t worth the effort.
True Hippocampus most who contribute to the forum will pass the the testing by virtue of the fact that they keep abreast of what is happening. regarding those with dyslexia and other learning difficulties it looks like it is going to be a suck it and see situation. though I suppose for some any method of reducing the numbers is legitamite.
The plates will still be in ussue – no reduction in numbers.
so just a reduction in quality then. is that your thinking ?
lisa
Your a real taxi lady with plenty of time for watching the Waltons, from your lovely office, while we have to sit on the ranks for nothing but abuse from fed up civil servants and you know you would be a good person to apply for the taxi regulators job as you seem to have so much in commom with her
John boy
good man john boy
Lisa, it depends how you define quality. Cars will be under 9 and drivers will possess sufficient literacy skills to learn the answers welfare buy for them.
John Boy, Lisa is not a taxi person, her skills lie in training, just a treacherous wannabe rep come taxi teacher.
ah stephen you do me an injustice. if honesty is treachary then guilty as charged
. upskilling this year and hoping to get another award 
was a trainer well before the taxi interest. trainer of the year actually in 2005
rep na not me. just a lowly secretary
good man stephen. carry on.
now stephen re the quality question. all surface no substance then. would that be right.
Lisa, so Frank told ya to fcuk off with the idea of making a killing by training in new entrants. Honesty? How does that reconcile with your posts defending Frank after the O’Connell St. protest? Delayed reaction?
Lisa, you omitted “sacked in 2009″ from your CV pet.
hehehe stephen there you go again with the liberal with the truth shite you cad. the correct term is made redundant an unfortunate by product of the demise of the celtic cub. but only out of work for a short time. back earning within 5 weeks. the last time i was sacked was 1999 and that cost the company in question money
your move
Word play, they wanted rid (can’t imagine why!), they got rid…end of.
they sure did stephen, of the whole company. cant imagine why :-0.
you’d know much more about word play than i would so i will leave that to you and your friends in public houses. if rumour is right you will have another go at it in march
“Lisa, so Frank told ya to fcuk off with the idea of making a killing by training in new entrants. Honesty? How does that reconcile with your posts defending Frank after the O’Connell St. protest? Delayed reaction?”
stephen is franky telling lies again or are you just making things up as you go along. tut tut. franky didn’t tell me to fcuk off franky asked for the training. franky told the guys that organised the pilot scheme that ITC was on board. the only thing is that franky neglected to tell ITC that they wanted it or that they were onboard. franky wanted to use the course as a recruitment tool for ITC but i disagreed. should be avalible to all i said. bit like support for a protest being used as a recruitment tool. as for o’connell st i told franky if he pushed the issue i wouldn’t support him. he pushed the issue. i don’t support him
. regarding the training i was contacted by the organisers 2 weeks ago and advised them to work directly with frank as i could not speak for him. if he has told them to fcuk off thats between them.
o’connell st was a shambles stephen. you were right. the lads achieved nothing and had gotten nothing to be proud of. nothing gained and 2 days pay lost. simples
Lisa, a somewhat different account than that you gave immediately after the protest….such honesty…..you still trying to make a few quid out of training?
Lisa
I would not agree with everything that Stephan has said in the past but he is very close, its a pity that you did not till the members of the I.T.C what reilly went on in Dublin and then you may have had more support, its not to late to help others to stay on the right side of the law, and as for the march in Dublin that was not planned but an off the cuff thing as you may have worked out. You can please some of the people, some of the time, but not all of the people all of the time.
John boy
Brian Lenehan´s recently released Finance Bill includes measures to enable the notorious “Taxi regulator” quango to provide Revenue with details of the owners of taxi licences.
presumably they feel there is a vast source of untapped income out there waiting for the tax inspectors to pounce.
Now as everybody knows there are some 20,000 taxis-some bogus and some legitimate- plying/scouring the streets of Dublin at present, looking for scarcer and scarcer fares among a daily decreasing clientel- and in the midst of an ever deepening recession.
The State/local authorities/Fianna Fail, have made a fortune during the past 12 years,since they commenced selling these taxi licences to retired gardai; prison officers; financially under pressure factory workers; farmers; Congolese war veterans; Nigerian scammers;and even temporary resident Chinese “language students”, for 5,000 Euros a go.!
The “Taxi Regulator” quango, needs still more funds every year to keep it´s securely employed staff in the style that quangoistas are accustomed, and also to fund expensive advertising videos on RTE; and print and post out, fancy glossy full colour brochures to every taxi driver in the state telling him what he already knows (that the “Taxi Regulator” is another revenue gathering exercise on the backs of lowly self employed taxi drivers) advising him how to suck eggs..and so on.
Hence the Quango has increased the cost of a new taxi driver licence from 3 Euros to 250 Euros -in one year!.This stroke? of a pen , will bring in a handy extra six and a half million Euros in one year-enough to pay for the salaries of another couple of dozen of Fianna Fail appointed crony “apparatchicks” in the “Taxi Regulator” Quango.
Any other body of workers would be gathered in their thousands, protesting; breaking up pavement stones on Kildare Street, and pelting them at TDs arriving at Leinster House!-not so the demoralized and leaderless taxi drivers.
So if this brave new edict in the Finance Bill is expected to offset the cost of paying civil servants pensions and golden handshakes- and Namad Fianna Fail crony developers-dont hold your breath!
http://www.soldiersofdestiny.org/taxitaxi.htm
john boy according to the president of ITC the October protest was called for by the affiliates of ITC the previous week. He asked for our help in organising it on the Monday prior because others wouldn’t so it wasn’t that off the cuff. you may not have know about it but it was decided nearly a week before the event. my help was given freely as it always had been by way of printing off a couple of thousand leaflets and distributing them amongst others this was all organised from my job. they were also e-mailed by me to those who wanted more printed out including Stephen although he had an issue with the wording of them after the fact. he still handed them out as did his good lady wife. I spent the Monday Tuesday and Wednesday meeting people, handing over flyers and handing them out myself. In addition some of us were out in Molesworth St in the wee small hours of the morning on 01st October (05.30 to be exact) on Frank Byrnes instructions waiting for the thousands to arrive from around the country that never came. The same people were on O’Connell St some for the duration of the protest unfortunatley I had to go home that night to my child, I came back in the following day after being made redundant. All time given freely and with a good heart to Frank Byrne. It is only afterwords that I found out about the back of the van and in the public house talks he had with Stephen and others to figure out his get out strategy (last week to be exact). That came in a meeting arranged through a third party which led to a pile of rubbish being read out on o’connell st to those who were with Mr. Byrne through it all. He might want to lie now john boy but I and John Keane sat in the halfway house with him and two others the following week. I saw the paperwork. 1 was a letter which had also been issued to the members of the JTC nothing to be proud of in it. 2 was a piece of paper allegadly initialed by andy cullen of DOT promising a meeting on the 14th or 15th of October incidently the 15th being the day that TAC were meeting. This was not on DOT paper. On neither of these pieces of paper was anything for the protesters to be proud of. He agreed with us that they got nothing and that has been borne out in the past months. He asked us how could something be rescued from the shambles so we agreed to stay quiet and move on. Yes I did support Frank Byrne. No I dont support him any more. I have told the vice presidant of ITC why cause he asked me. Yes I did tell the ITC Executive that the next time they organise a protest in Dublin they better have balloted their members and have concrete figures. So yes after finding out that I and everybody else was shafted I am pissed off. I think I have a right to be. I was lied to along with everybody else who thought that ITC had achieved something after all the support that was given from Dublin for a protest that had its origins elswhere. to add insult to injury mr. byrne then wanted me, john and others to organise an automaticly affiliated ITC Dublin Branch on the back of that lie. I’m not looking for support john boy the truth would have been more than enough for me. I wasn’t told it at the time but I know it all now. Stephen I think that answers your question as well. regading whether I am training or not. Training within the Security Industry is none of your concern.
Lisa
I am sorry to have used you this way i would find out the real story on how o’connell st came about, and i thank you for coming out into the open, i always knew i was being kept in th dark on the march, it is a pity we lost you and once again thank you. I will one day meet with you, the I.T.C will now be asked real questions about why they did not brief its members, it will take time for me to work out what went on, keep writing
John boy
john boy. i had a feeling you were on a fishing expedition. i believe you might already know who i am. if so feel free to contact me.
John Boy, the protest was organised at a meeting of ITC affiliates on 22 Sept. TDFC were well aware of it. I’m not “close” to any organisation John, having spent 30+ hours on the front line I was pissed off with how ITC handled the outcome of the protest and voiced my annoyance but as I said a few replies back if we’ve any chance of those in power realising we exist we need to look forward not backwards.
Lisa, why all the bullshit, you told us in your last response to me why you withdrew support for ITC, Frank (quite rightly) disagreed with your plans to sell training to new entrants, opting to keep the offer restricted to ITC subscribers.
You and John first tried to establish a Dublin association back in September, before the protest. You contacted several friends of mine for advice. Your efforts have amounted to nothing and nor will they. You’re not a taxi driver, your interest is just a training income for yourself….end of.
Stephen as you said you are not close to any organisation. You don’t know the details you were always only along for the ride. no passion, no commitment. In a way I envy you. that way you don’t every get disappointed and can always say i told you so. no matter what I say to you it won’t make a blind bit of differance you will always do what you always have. the only differance is i couldn’t care less what you say about me. it matters not a jot. if you dissappeared in the morning i wouldn’t notice and you can say the same for me.
The training income shite is old stephen. very old. and to be honest with you nobody cares. yes i am a trainer. yes i make money at it. so what. so old.
Frank Byrne can feed you with all the lies he likes stephen. you can make up all the shite you like stephen. it won’t change the facts and they are known to the parties involved.
Stephen you are quite wrong as per usual and your incorrect statements are fast becoming ikesome.
1. Frank Byrne asked for the training full stop. You weren’t involved. Frank Byrne and 2 ACTD people were the ones who spoke to the organisers at several meetings. Apart from the introductry meeting I did not attend any of the others. I attended both courses at the organisers request. you werent there as you would not ever need such a service. At a meeting in Bewleys Hotel Newlands Cross in December I believe ACTD and Frank Byrne were tackled by the organisers who had also given of their time to that date willingly and free gratus over the backhanded way in which ACTD had publicised thier findings that there was no need for training without firstly discussing it with the very people they had asked to help them dispite a converstaion I had with the . Not a pleasant meeting as these people are friends of mine and were treated with a distnct lack of respect.
2. John and I did not attempt to start an association in September. We were asked by Frank Byrne to do so, discussed the matter with several people, some of whom would more than likely be mutual aquantances. We told Frank Byrne no at that stage. He asked several times up until the meeting in the Regency Hotel in November. The sticking point to start off with was automatic affiliation of a Dublin Association to ITC. The finish was attempting to build an ITC branded association on the back of a lie.
What I am involved in at the moment I was asked to be involved in. I made the statement at the regency that I wasn’t a driver and therefore should not be involved. This was refuted by those in attendance and those of us who are still there are there because we are happy to work with each other and we trust each other. Trust and truth are the all that matters.
Stephen you keep attacking me mate and all you are succeeding in doing is giving me an excuse to tell more of what I know. It is as plain as the nose on your face at this stage that I am telling the truth. Sure why wouldn’t I and your feeble attempt to try and shut me down true my training credentials died a death wth everybody a long long time ago.
Stephen
I have never tried to set up another association in Dublin, i would love to see another association to help fight the way forward. while the I.T.C may have problems its the first nationwide group that is not been paid, and while i know its not perfect ill back it, as long as they speak for full time taxi drivers, i know its not asking anybody to act outside the law, but some people may feel that they want to test it, so be it they are grown men, while i would ask every driver to always act within the law at all times. What everybody must wake up to is that the powers that be want us to fight each other and in this way we will not be united in our fight on the next wave of licence fees and they are coming, now think carefully about the road ahead, i have always said united we stand, lets start to heel the damage and look forward
John Boy, the John I was referring to was Lisa’s (common law) husband, John Keane.
Lisa, nobody’s interested in the bullshit you’re spouting, or haven’t you noticed. Your row with Frank was about training income, you told us that… end of.
Stephan
Talk later. Thanks for clearing up the John matter
John boy
ah Stephen would you ever dry up there was no argument with Frank Byrne or anybody else about training. you continue on your merry way. bon voyage.
just as a point of note stephen my rlationship with john keane is not common law anything. just as security industry training is none of your concern then my domestic arrangements fall into the same category.
what has the marital status or employment status got to do with any post that lisa has posted or replied to ,to bring anyones personal life into an argument is a sign of immaturity
Lisa
Sorry i would not have asked if i thought your private affairs would be used in this way, Stephan you owe Lisa an apology.
John boy
well you have to just laugh
dont yea!
honestly for some bird that can sit down and reply to everybodys comments
about taxi ind.
clearly they havent a clue about the tripe that there writing about
bud.
anyone who takes that book she just wrote serious should get their
head shrink to court….ha! ha!
and thats from someone who dosent drive a taxi.
I dont no if the taxi reg done adverts for carlsberg
it would have to go to the gobshite for the amount of gobshite she just wrote.
but keep it up coz honestly you have nothing better to do.
remember you dont drive a taxi and your not a taxi drive eeeer
just leave it to people who are taxi drivers and most of importantly
who know what there doing and know what they are talking about
like frank byrne. god bless him
TnT, I was merely clarifying which John was referred to as John Boy mistakenly thought I was referring to him. “Common Law” was in brackets as I neither know nor care upon what legal footing said relationship is based. Lisa’s employment and training qualifications were introduced to the discussion by Lisa.
Lisa, you told us of the ultimatium you issued to Frank i.e. if training was restricted to ITC subscribers you were quitting, it’s up there in black and white, your words, not mine.
John Boy, I disagree, Lisa brought her private life into it, not I.
another troll puts up shite , good name though desperate, as dympha would say
away with you , find something else to amuse yourself you lonely housewife away
TnT, apt though! You gotta laugh now and again mate.
Dear house wife
It is so unpleasant to refer to a lady as a burd I think you might be a man.I also feel you are threatened by lisas intelligence.You posted as a desperate housewife do you have an identity crisis.Reports in the New England Medical Journal suggest that people who have a non gender spacific christian name sometimes suffer from delusional tendancies.
I will away now I am learning to knit
Dymphna
ahhhhhhh stephen housewife or should it be desperate stephen. such depths you have decended to to amke yourself right. reread the post i said i disagreed with ITC specific training not that I would quit. it was agreed at the end of that meeting that training should be avalible to all but as you were not there you would not know. have you no painting or such like things to keep you busy. now i must away and prepare myself for another day.
@Stephen, your propensity for repitition knows no bounds. Old attack strategies rehashed and re-defended, give it a rest.
You attempt to discredit others who for one reason or another have unfortunately found themselves in agreement with your previous stance re- Frank Byrne and ITC. What do you do? a back flip in support of FB and ITC.
It seems that you really dont want anybody to agree with you as this would make your existance very mundane indeed.
Just a thought, perhaps your next persona might be called Flipper.
The source of your information is corrupt, your use of this information boring at best, your persistent lack of passion(by your own admission)towards the SPSV sector insulting. If you dont give a s**t dont offer s**t by way of an opinion you will undoubtedly go back on when you have another mood swing.
In the past my Rat bashing was due to the fact that you seemed well able to give as good as you got and i enjoyed the to and fro. In recent times the to and fro was at the request of your re-found friend due to his fear and paranoia. At this point in time you have become nothing other than a minor irritatation, if you leave it alone it will go away.
@STEO
Iwould just like to say the same as johnny.your propensity for repetition knows no bounds.At the risk of repeating myself .Your propensity for repetition knows no bounds,
Roy, Can you clarify that I’m not the author of “desperate Housewife”, thanks.
John K, I’ve made no attempt to discredit anyone. Lisa told us about the ultimatum she gave Frank on the training income issue, not me. If she makes a few quid out of it well and good, I’ve no problem with that.
Lisa,
This is what you said pet: “franky wanted to use the course as a recruitment tool for ITC but i disagreed. should be avalible to all i said….. i told franky if he pushed the issue i wouldn’t support him. he pushed the issue. i don’t support him”
You don’t support Frank because he wouldn’t allow you use ITCs good name sell training to anyone and everyone…….simples.
Rialto, Your a Repetitive Git.
franky asked for the training. franky told the guys that organised the pilot scheme that ITC was on board. the only thing is that franky neglected to tell ITC that they wanted it or that they were onboard. franky wanted to use the course as a recruitment tool for ITC but i disagreed. should be avalible to all i said. bit like support for a protest being used as a recruitment tool. as for o’connell st i told franky if he pushed the issue i wouldn’t support him. he pushed the issue. i don’t support him
. regarding the training i was contacted by the organisers 2 weeks ago and advised them to work directly with frank as i could not speak for him. if he has told them to fcuk off thats between them.
and if you know anything you know exactly what i mean. if you dont know anything then thats your tough. im not playing with you any more. you are repetitive and boring and desperate and anything else you can think of to call me. bon voyage
Phillip Boucher Hayes (RTE special investigative journalist) drove his illegal taxi all around Dublin for two days and was only hailed down twice.!
Will somebody tell him where to go to make a killing in the taxi trade..?
@tirnanog33. It is not possible to make a killing in the taxi trade.
Stephen you are dead right. It is not possible to make a killing in this trade. The only ones being killed are ourselves with the hours that we are trying to work to make a decent amount of money.
Whaz aup
boys ans girls
Yes O’Connell may not have been a winner but i do not see any of the big 4 unions doing anything to save our industry and its so easy to blame the I.T.C on their first outing and after hearing the commants on last Sat newstalk, i for one could not care if the public do not like the next action any group take, aftre all we sit in our Taxi for two to three hours and burn the fare, to keep warm at the Back of the rank,why not sit in O’Connell st with the taxi turned off, in a week long pretest and show what we are made off.
Get the gloves off and stop the
John boy
its always important to tell the,
eerrrrrrrrrrrrrr mmmmmmmmmmm truth.
thats why the love couple from the love boat!!
(TV SERIES?) are now steiring there little tenchy, winchy
tug boat (called CTA) all on there own, as all the little sailors are jumping ship
because I dont no why………………..
so why dont you tell us lisa?
have to go coz cornation street is on
and have to do me sit ups while watching.
I dont believe you are Dymphna. Dymphna wouldn’t watch coronation st. Too low brow by far
she may be a desperate housewife but she is not common
hi me again,
jasus cornation street was bleeding rappit,
me and the girls had a great laugh doing me stomach
sit ups the other night.
now me fella’ told me that he heard from some one on the
rank the other night that there was a commitee meeting
of CTA in the swiss cottage the other night and lisa you were at it.
it that true?
now what he heard from the talk on the ranks is that about
8 or 9 full time drivers who are at the taxi game along time who were part of this
commitee have all walked away in disgust.
why is dat lisa?
someone said that you just keep slagging of this guy called
frank byrne all the time and they all got pissed of listen to yea.
and someone said you have the cheek to slag frank byrne
but you were asked a question 3 times and you never answered it,
whats that all about,
tell us more will yea lisa!!!!!
jasus I love the ould gossip keeps me going in between fair city,
and eastenders.
whats going lisa now girl tell me the truth.
I heard there were 5/6 drivers/non-drivers, the meeting being concluded as above.
how ya love,
you heard it to as well , be d jasus you must have them big
ears luv………… wat yea mecall it……. your not one of them elephants
on the loose from the zoo?
news gets around fast thats some secret meeting
what did you hear……………?
give us the beef if you know wat I mean (cheeky).
Ya see DHW you’r wasting your time watching Eastend Street, ya’d have much better crack with the gossip and slaggin on the ranks….
Oh, that live episode they made a big deal about, she who must be obeyed had it on the box, I was most disappointed that they didn’t show your man landing…
lisa
I would like to know what committee(CTA) or are you trying to take over the taxi drivers jobs with non taxi drivers, be careful we have enough do gooders in the union’s, KD is well able for your big thinking, and will fight to keep her job, if you can muster 20 drivers and cars she might take you on, good luck.
John boy