About the TTnH Poster,
Roy November 29th, 2012
If TTnH believe they have workable solutions to the items listed in their protest poster they should come out with them, many of the issues listed on their poster were dealt with in the review, maybe not to TTnH’s liking, but what are they? ….Spoilt children? Are they the only ones with an opinion?
Double jobbers; Was dealt with via the decals which are a deterrent (which they don’t seem to want) , also the declaration that you are employed/letter from employer, etc.
Oversupply; Was dealt with via the non transfer rule (which they don’t seem to want) the age rule (which they don’t seem to want) The criminality ban (which they don’t seem to want) also the double jobber proposals above (which they don’t seem to want) etc
Vetting; The criminality proposal and hopefully with the NTA eventually taking over licencing (which they don’t seem to want)
Illegal ranks; penalty points (which they don’t seem to want) and extra garda enforcement will help.
Discount fares; Don’t TTnh advertise a discounter on their website!
Appeals; We got the ombudsman! TTnH sent out a text saying how great it was!
Proper negotiation; Most rep bodies are involved in negotiations
Stamp2; Is not a DOT/NTA issue.
Legislation and regulations; The proposed regulations and legislation is designed to improve the Taxi industry.
TTnH are just against everything for the sake of it.
They are merely an anti establishment, anti everything group, most of all ANTI PROGRESS group!
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its amazing these drives never happen at night example night drivers loose no money,,, i work aport and iam sick this fool thinking he runs the place,,another load shite with fools plan to build another toilet and charge drivers 50 cents to use,,,is 440 a year not enough for daa to pay for this.
Roy your 100%, TTNH should disband,and STOP what there doing,and take note of the new legislation, its going to help the industry.Honest to god im sick to death hearing MOANING,there not fighting for the taxi driver there stirring the shite.As I said in a earlier post they throw there rattlers out of the pram looking for change then mammy regulator hands them back roof stickers for the area which are driving in, a waste of time.then another union shouts for something else a joke!!!!!!Do TTNH understand the meaning SELF -EMPLOYED!!!!!!!,If there not happy get F**K out of the industry simple as that..protest in a civil manner.Who runs that TTNH?,and as far as advertising a discount company on there Sh*t website,CLOWNS.What bankroles this group?..is that the drivers going around with green stickers on there cars stating FULL TIME DRIVER?????,Now do any of you fellow drivers think that means something..I dont think so…I think its racist
Martin 20years a taxi driver
Oh I forgot it has been mentioned to me in the taxi by customers. about those stickers that say fulltime driver..a few have said to me that it looks racist,Did they pay for those stickers I wonder???.The SGS or NCT should fail a PSV with stickers on there rear windows
martin how in the name of god do you come to the conclusion that a driver declaring his status as a full time driver is racist ? you appear to be one of these people that feel if someone looks the wrong way at a foreigner he is a racist . it is a ridiculious statement you have made . as regards ttnh, i dont agree with their desire to have the decals scrapped , but i will certainly go and support the march simply because they appear to be the only people doing anything for drivers .
@ bohehemian boy,Ok im a bit hard on those stickers but it was said to me in the car about those stickers on two separate occasssions.Asking me what they mean i quoted that that they were just fulltime drivers both said it looks racist…Can I ask you what does the €30 membership get you in TTNH??? and if they have 1800 members,thats €54,000 wheres that money going are they on a wage to protest?.And as far as doing Tax its a few clicks on ROS fill in the gaps 10min and €50..So heres there breakdown
1800 (Members) @ €30 is €54,000
1800 (Members) Tax Return @ €50 is €90,000
God its €154,000 Alot of Hokey pokey!!!!!!!
A brisk walk on a Monday,I think all drivers should attend,think of the health benefits of an hours exercise,beats typing hands down.
@Martin and Roy ill propose that we disband at the next meeting
Clowns.
@Sclass will there be a xmas party with the €154,000 plus advertising money?..I love a good party
Well Martin
TTNH is a registered company with an office computers phones legal support for taxi drivers etc etc but if you are a member you can find out all in more detail .if not sorry.
@Sclass, This gets better, So what, if they have phones and computers and a office,thats not going to get you work!!!!!,So lets say they get 5,000 drivers,which is possible with the right brain washing thats a whopping €400,000 per annum. nice little earner.And as far as tax is concerned its done in bulk on ROS 10min job ive a brother who is a accountant and i asked him tonight about this..but let me tell you if you under declare you will be flagged by revenue and its not TTNHs problem its yours..Look Ill shout and roar at the 2 minutes notice for €154,000 and rising
oh and legal support for what may I say????,you get a €250 fine and caught out red handed your guilty as charged.maybe they can do magic with parking tickets.Im sure there going to spend thousands on a fellow driver
Ok Martin
Now i know what your all about your a great lad lots of you lads out there.sorting it all out on taxi .org.great stuff.
look lads lets start again .martin firstly i am NOT a member of ttnh, i am a member of capital taxi assocation . cta are a group who have consistantly tried to promote unity among drivers , realising that this is the way forward . again i must refer to the meeting in wynns hotel, where a good airing of the problems faced by full time taxi drivers was addressed . the shinners also took on board the need for drivers to unite . they have agreed to try to bring this much needed unity about, by speaking to the drivers directly at places such as the airport in the coming days . i personelly am sick to death of the back biting,snipping, and cloke, and dagger stuff that goes on between ALL rep bodies, and i told them that to their faces at the meeting . they are dealing with the lives of real people,and their livlihoods. it doesent matter a toss which rep body wins the concessions from the govt , as long as somebody does . it just CANNOT continue where reps are trying to be the ones who got the govt to give in to what we want . WE NEED UNITY , AND WE NEED IT NOW .at the end of the day the only way ANYTHING can be won is through a strong mandate given to ALL the reps to work together. so instead of us alkl having a go at each other , lets get behind them and support them in their efforts
Roy,Martin,
What utter clowns you two seem to be. TTNH are a group of taxi drivers who have come together to try and fix the industry. Nothing more nothing less. The €54k you refer too is used to represent drivers in court amongst other things. Example, a driver prosecuted recently for parking at Bewleys in leopardstown. When asked by gardai was he plying for hire, he replied that he wasmdoing the same as the network taxi in front of him. Gardai charged him and not the network car! Result in court… With TTnH legal team….driver won gardai lost. Or what about the driver refused his licence on grounds he was late renewing. the man suffered a stroke! TTnH sorted that too!! As regards Decals, COP ON! Decals will not make a blind bit of difference. The roof sign county stickers were meant to sort out illegality. Result…fail. There are already two companies making covers to go over the decals!!!! Letters from employers??? A absolute joke too! Employers will use that as a way to get staff to take a pay cut probably. Gardai enforcing spsv laws?? They don’t do it now, nothing will change. Dedicated enforcers, 50 of them, is whats needed. Finally, i joined the NPHTA in feb. not a single word from them since. There accountant charges €240! €50 is a damn good deal. TTnH routinely contact members with updates. Usually 2 times per week. NTA are clowns as is the advisory council. Get a grip on yourselves!!!!
@Bohemian boy,Your right in ALL your points,UNITY,but we have tried this many times before,You seem very geniune guy,but we could only wish for unity those Rep bodies are a money making racket.Now say we were PAYE workers yes UNITY would happen but we all are SELF – EMPLOYED.The sad thing bohemian boy it will never happen,There is NO UNITY WITH REP BODIES,they are all in it for the HOKEY POKEY and all have there own ideas as Sclass said they have phones and computers and a office what next new taxis…I see they even have a fundraising Dept.Look in the window from the outside can you see what I see?.
martin i hear what you are saying, but i started my post by saying lets start again . i honestly believe unity IS achievable . maybe i am nieve, but i really believe in the drivers . some of the stories i have heard about the hardship lads have experienced is just overwhelming . we have got to believe it can happen and we are the ones who can MAKE it happen. to all of you i ask that we please STOP slagging each other off,and snipping at each other . debate on issues is always good, but should NEVER become personal . it was proposed at wynns by mary lou mcdonnald ,that we pick about 3,or 4 headline issues that ARE winnable ,and the shinners will bring these to the table before the new bill is signed into law. they think this is a better approach then going in with a hundred other issues , i must say i agree . they feel they can seek changes to the proposals, but in order to do that they absolutely MUST have a strong mandate. they MUST be able to count on the backing of the drivers . she also said at that meeting, that during the course of a dail session recently, alan kelly stopped short of admitting we were no threat because of the lack of unity. to the rep bodies ,i implore you to put your egos to bed , and work for the drivers collectively . please will you get together and meet to establish a common policy going forward ,please do this with haste there are whole families depending on you , to jerry brennan , dave mcguinness, john usher, the country reps , etc etc i ask you to PLEASE enter into meaningful discussions with each other , and please do it now. i will finish by saying this to all the drivers , and its very important to remember, A UNION IS ONLY AS STRONG AS ITS MEMBERS
Again a whole lot of whipped-up air.
What good will decals do to stop double jobbers ? I have been accused of being one because I have C and D licences and sometimes take jobs driving trucks or coaches. So what ? When I do take those jobs THEN MY TAXI IS OFF THE ROAD.
I do not get out of a bus, truck or coach in the afternoon and then start driving my taxi. I know for a fact that some (Dublin) bus drivers do and that is partly because they are exempt from tachos. I am IN FAVOUR of tachos in taxis because this will eliminate fully employed bus drivers to muscle in on the taxi business. AND DO BOTH JOBS AT THE SAME TIME, in the same time period ! I even heard of taxi drivers who virtually live in their taxi. I know of one who has his sleeping bag in the boot and when he cannot keep his eyes open he just parks up and goes asleep; when he wakes up he goes off driving again. That is not a sign of a healthy industry and I pity those who think they have to resort to live the life of a tramp just to keep going. No decals will help. I also heard of a “back lane Joe” (or is it back lane Igor?) who will put a convincing decal on the side of a taxi once they are brought in. If you bring a meter, printer and rood sign I believe he will transform any “suitable” 4-door car into a real-looking taxi complete with daisy, tax and insurance disks that will satisfy any Garda on a dark Saturday night. No, we do not need gimmicks like penalty points for minor infringements. We need trained enforcement officers and we need a lot of them !
And “Full-time taxi driver” stickers, are they racist? Next we may not drive a white car. Racist! Green lights to indicate we are free has already been declared racist.
AC, where are you now ? You seem like a reasonable guy. I would like to see a rational comment from a legal, full-time, educated immigrant (African ?) driver !
Joining TTNH ? I am still trying to recover from NTDU ! I still have a badge from them somewhere !
@fred,its €154,000 and rising…@Flybynite Tachos will cost money who has the money to pay for them not me!!!!,Grand for you getting nixers in a truck or a bus.The taxi is my sole income i dont have luxury of that license but something to think about in the future. As far as saying the UNIONS, will never talk to eachother as us drivers are there customers its just not going to happen
Fred, TTnH are great at telling everyone what they don’t want.
What do they want?
and What solutions do they suggest?
Anyone can walk down O’Connell Street shouting like morons, why not get on your Keyboards debate and maybe come up with a few solutions instead?
martin remember this YOU are the union and others like you. people like jerry brennen, john usher, dave mcguinness etc etc, are there to act on the instruction of you, and your union member colleagues . at least that is how i always thought a union works . if we instruct them to swollow their pride and talk to each other, then that is what they are morally oblidged to do . again a union is only as strong as its members . drivers have to let the leadership know what they want , and its then up to them to go and get it for them . it should also be the case that the leadership can be safe in the knowledge that they have the full backing of their members . if i had my way there would be only ONE union . they would have a general sec, a national excucitive committie,branch committies etc,etc, and they would represent ALL full time taxi drivers . i really believe this is what we should be striving for
We don’t need a union, we are small businesses, we need a business organisation, striving to make this industry the best it can be, through improved standards and proper self enforcement.
We dont need a unioun roy?If u want to know what life with no unioun is like,look around you,take a look at the g.r.a,they take no shit,also siptu aside have taxi’s ever had an on offical unioun,before u answer do the research.
Do Vinters have a union? Small businesses? the Motor trade? we are not workers/employees, we are self employed businesses
while you may be right in the sense that we small businesses, self employed people , noel ebbs, vinny kearns, anto kelly and the rest would give you an argument on that . they are of the opinion that the drivers who work under their respective banners are actually THEIR EMPLOYEES . that said if we ARE small businesses as you suggest , then surely we come under the remit of the small, and medium enterprise assocation , who are VERY vocal in their efforts on behalf of their members . regardless of wether we need a union,or not the fact is we need SOMEBODY to speak on our behalf , botton line is WE NEED UNITY, WE DEMAND UNITY
@Roy
I find it unbelievable the trust you have in the establishment that same establishment that fukked US over and over and are still at it.
You have tapped away for two years or more on your keypads where has it got us
By the way TTNH is not a union
If you don’t by now what TTNH want ?
You have a email with all the details
Please explain the self enforcement how we go about that.
I think we’ve come a long way in the last two years, the upcoming bill is hopefully when it all bears fruit, although TTnH seem to be doing their level best to fuk it all up.
roy what would you mostly like to see the introduction of the bill achieve ? for myself i would like to see the end of double jobbing , the tackling of illegals in a real meaningful way, illegal plying for hire being tackled , ie bottom grafton st , central bank, dawson st, dawson st,etc etc . i am fairly optimistic that it will happen, but i think it will be some time before we will see the results
All of the above, and I believe if enacted properly it has a hope. what I don’t understand is a rep body, supposedly for full time taxi drivers, marching against the first good think to happen for this industry in years, I’d prefer they were fighting for the proposals to be enacted as written, rather than the crap they are going on with.
The TTNH and ALL those other organisations,Will certainly shout for you once you pay them…and think about it they will not be united as they will then have to share the cabbage you give them.No matter what the NTA puts into legislation, all unions will kick up as if they dont,they will loose you there CUSTOMER think about it.Ive asked customers in the car about the upcoming protest and there answer was ‘ NOT AGAIN ‘.I see none of you union heads are saying much about the money there making!!!!! so far 154000 154000 154000 154000 154000 and a lovely crimbo they will have i assure you.The TTNH have a fundraising dept it gets better and a lotto god are they for real.Tommy O Gorman type of organisation
What are you on martin154000 talk sence man your hallucination
Roy says we’ve come along way in 2yrs,i say i cant get onto an official rank for nearly 5,i go out every night to a taxi jam,stickers for everthing,guys driving taxi’s pulling up asking me where is the gresham htl,if we,cud u imagine if they were still popping out licences how bad it wud be,again roy i ask when did the taxi ind ever have a fully fledged registered unioun?
As for martin im suspicious of u,taxi industry quite obviously a sham and u say do nothing,”dont upset the public”we upset them when an 8€ job turns into 12€ because we’re caught in a taxi jam,and ur anti unity,i ask u 1question,whats ur story man?
@Sclass, The Membership fee TTNH has pocketed so far, your own lads say you have 1800 members thats 154000 yoyo add the figures on on there sie get your calculator out simple as that
@Sidewinder,Your Suspicious of me in what way, Im a under cover CIA agent,get a grip man and read the posts, all finances of the Union organisations are being not been answered.UNITY in this game is a DREAM,STOP thinking you are all Martin Luther King.As far as protest is concerned,DO it in a manerly way.Yes Ive protested at previous strikes and walked them to with the TDFC, with nothing changed The Taxi regulator was been pestered by the Gardai,Fireservice and the public about the amount of Taxis,So what did the Unions get silly stickers that you can buy on Moore St easily.Unions are popping up like daisys on a summers day.THERE ALL a money making racket.UNDERSTAND Sidewinder you are SELF-EMPLOYED like me and all on here.I WILL NOT have you or any of your other UNION CLOWNS,tell me what to do!!!!!!.They should climb back under there rocks and wither away.The NTA are laughing at you,They try to do something good and you and your buddys shoot it down all the time.I will not join your Band of Brothers for €80 as its a days pay.This is not a PRO union site as far as I can see,So crawl off to your own site and kickup.We are debating here and all I can see is the union idiots repeating themselves.The cheek of you, your Suspicious of me!!!!!..Clown
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Iv got it Martin ex African cabbie
New user name Martin.
Its impossible their could not be two headreckers.(clones)
Naah.
@Sclass,Hey there Im a Irish taxidriver, not African cabbie you dont understand any of the posts above,You have been brainwashed by your union,still no more comments on all the cabbage your Union is making!!!!!!,Its sad to see all the unions yapping like old women in a bingo hall,Protest my hole,I hope to god they give NO media coverage,TTNH love been on TV like all the Union Clowns..
Work alongside the rank in Fosters place , the rep/helper for TTNH was handing flyers for the next action being taken, I’d like to say he was a nice chap and offering help to drivers , but he was an ignorant moron , asked what happened if nothing comes from the next/action walk thru his response was “we’ll cripple this effing city in january till our DEMANDS are met” . Hardly a good rep from TTNH to send out to get drivers onside , He was a scruffy looking chap in his 50′s and his car was no better .
**** Demands aren’t met
@Gordon thats why I dont support any off those unions lots of GURRIERS,I have pity for the ordinary fellow taxidrivers that has got mixed up with this shower.He seems like some type of Scruffball.Ive heard mouth pieces like him before when there were meetings in the kennel club before.Its a disgrace to this industry.Maybe a few of them will end up in the slammer on there protest day gobshites
Self employed!!!!so why do i feel unemployed thanks to the n.t.a
martin i want to ask this question of you please . if you dont support the milintant approach, and the softly, softly approach which has also been tried and didnt work, what way would you suggest the reps go about things ? i am only asking like , i would be interested to hear what you think
@Sidewinder and Bohemian boy…First of all the NTA put good proposals in at tightening the whole industry.Im not a NTA fan but ill have to live with them.The reason not , just you Sidewinder All of us feel down in ourselves, is the people are not getting taxis as they have no money pubs and clubs are shutting down, and a major thing is over supply of taxis.The only hope we have is the NTA,I hope the new legislation will stop double jobbers, and swapping of plates on cars and many other factors.All we can do is HOPE.Joining a organisation like TTNH will get you know where or any of them, Bohemian boy they want your money.Lads look what Gordo said in above post,Another thing is Dublin Bus got a 18% rise in fares and they dont pay VAT on the Diesel like we do.We should take our 4% and be lucky to get it, REMEMBER fuel prices are rising next TTNH will be then looking for a fuel surcharge as drivers cant put fuel in there cars.The fact is you are there puppets
All you are doing is creating another layer of bureaucracy,adding extra cost on to the driver,customer,while the cartel of sticker suppliers rake in a few million.
All totally pointless without enforcement,Martin makes this point : “the people are not getting taxis as they have no money pubs and clubs are shutting down, and a major thing is over supply of taxis.”
Ask yourself ,will a 4% fare increase encourage more customers to use taxis ?
will it Gogarty!
@Frank,The increase is a small increase, and we wont have a chance again for another 2 years,by then fuel could be over the €2 per litre..The taxi branding is in most countrys and is good for Ireland to show the plate number is the same as the door stickers,also will stop the double jobbers putting plate in there boot while parking in there workplace.Also the Gardai will enforce Taxis driving around without there plates as there Taxed as a PSV not a private car
martin i am sure you believe totally in the points you make, however i DONT believe ttnh are in it just for the money, i think they are to be applauded for being the only body to try and do something for full time taxi drivers . having said that, i am completely split in my thoughts . on the one hand i have HUGE respect for them holding their march tomorrow to try to make their points, but at the same time i CANNOT subscribe to their view that we should stop the introduction of decals . like roy, i wish they were a little more clear on what exactly tomorrows agenda is
Martin I can understand your having an issue with yet another cost, like tachos.
But in my opinion we have accepted many things imposed on us that only cost money and do absolutely nothing for us. Like those stickers that so many see as the salvation. From what ? It will do NOTHING to stop students, illegals and others. It WILL force more cost on us and it will no longer be possible for the taxi to be used privately, just by taking the sign off the roof. Insofar as I know at present my wife will be able to use it, e.g. her brother in Carlow has a heart attack and when I am asleep she can go and visit him. But this may end if permanent stickers mark it as a taxi.
The only thing that will help – funny nobody seems to mention that – is that it will stop many expensive “sclass” vehicles to double as limos.
And for my D and C licence, Martin: As a young lad I was a trucker. I did the roro and went all over Europe. Knew the motorways in Europe, the ringroads around Cologne, the truck park areas in France and the Feria de Madrid in Barajas like the back of my hand. But it meant living in the cab. Literally. There was a bunk, a little fridge, I could make tea, there even was a potty in case I could not make the next service area in time. For a young lad it was a great life. Even then there were a surprising number of quite attractive lasses driving big artics and over time you got to know many of them.
But eventually I got married and we had kids. I suppose they are not the milkman’s (all relatives said the poor wee wains are the image of their da) but in the end I wanted to see them grow up, be part of their lives, not some stranger whose arrivals coincide with 3 hours after the arrival of the ferry and who departs a few days later in the wee hours of the morning to catch the 7 am ferry again.
So I became a taxi driver. First I was a “cosy”. I could not afford to buy my own licence and we started off in a council house so I could not raise a mortgage to get the cash either.
At that time I was pee’d off having to share a taxi with others. Not seldom did iI have to wait until they came back from, perhaps, a long country run or just because they were greedy and would not stop driving when their time was up because there was a concert or other event. If I had been able to get the money then I probably would have bought one and been in deep sh..t now. Thank the good Lord for small mercies!
I had barely started when there was a strike and I stood at the airport roundabout trying to keep warm at an oil barrel with bits of wood, anything that would burn.
But protests did us no good, dereg came and at least I managed to buy my own licence. I used my pension money from the haulage job, a few grand, and a bank loan.
I did well for some 5 years or so. Then we were punished with the appointment first of Deering (who remained invisible for about the first year whilst he built his empire in secret). Then KD came and we saw the numbers on the (Dublin) roof signs rise and rise until the introduction of national licences and then… well, we know all about that. We were sold out!
Our representatives did not do much more than stir up trouble from the sidelines and leave with their pensions and shares in taxi companies.
So Martin, if I had known it all beforehand I would never have become a taxi driver.
I did it at the time because I was used to a certain amount of freedom.
When I did my C licence the D came with it. I could have joined CIE / Dublin bus but the freedom of the taxi business attracted me and it seemed to offer a decent living with only doing a reasonable amount of hours per week.
Now I, like so many of us, am trapped. The job I loved (in the beginning anyway) became a drudge. The public are getting rougher and the hours nearly impossible. At least, when trucking, I had to have my regular time off.
And that, Martin, is why I would consider forking out for a tacho.
When it FORCES drivers to stay off the road during compulsory rest periods it may result in a better, more equal spread of the work.
But without strict supervision and enforcement NOTHING will work.
So all I have left is the prospect of maybe doing some coach driving a few weeks a year. Because the full-time jobs (trucking, Dublin bus) are already taken.
Ironically, often by immigrants !
BOHEMIANboy you are right hailo or any other radio company should not be allowed to tell those who employ them namely the drivers what to do or what to charge. IF any driver is charging a call out charge he is not breaking any law. I joined a radio company once and some fool told me I had to wear a uniform. The next day I opened the door of his office and just said nothing I just threw the radio at him. That was the last I ever heard from him. Now I suppose its not the radio companys fault its the fools of taxi drivers who obviously are so stupid who take this nonsense from them. The radio companies sole job is to find work for the people who employ him namely the taxi drivers.
@ bo boy
Look at the bigger picture decals are not going to sort out the industry they are just another sticking plaster to try and keep us quite.first it was new roof sign number
Next stickers for rear passenger windows then area stickers that no one gives a fukk about .then the yellow rosy front and rear window.now its branding for the doors all at cost to the driver now be serious don’t be listening to the likes of Roy and his cronies their here to wind you up they have a different agenda then to make lots of money for his website look back at his post he contradicts himself all the time to keep it going he loves the establishment he doesn’t have any problems it’s all been sorted out as far as he is concerned.
@flybynite Very well written,As you said “We were sold out!
Our representatives did not do much more than stir up trouble from the sidelines and leave with their pensions and shares in taxi companies.”Yes the industry was good in the 1st few years after De-reg in 2003,But i will say with a tacho you would make no money and you would be worse off.The thing about the wife not been able to drive the Taxi is false once the meter is off and the light, and not in a buslane, yes she can drive it.Why should the public pay up to treble the tax then us,when we can drive like them its not fair,thats another reason branding is happening.Are you a member of TTNH?.You speak alot more sense then the union heads on here.
martin i dont understand what your problem is with ttnh.its a little bit different than conventional union
ttnh is a volunary grop of full time taxi drivers working to improve our industry.taxi drivers who were disillusioned by all unions that succeeded before us.we have tried belive me after multiple correspondence going on two years now to have meaninful negotiation with relevant goverments authorities the last place we want to be is on the streets
the streets was voted down before.today i again read the labour partys pre election proposals for the taxi industry 21 in total( to long to post up).where are they.we were fed a crock of shit before they got in. The protest is just to let them know we are still here and not going away.
i am bewildered at the attitude of some taxi drivers towards ttnh
than again if they are not full time taxi drivers they would not be in favour of ttnh would they.
@ Sclass Im a fulltime taxidriver and Ive NO time for TTNH in anyway.I think there out for one thing YOUR MONEY and there disruptive in many ways.
Our money
Martain,your mistaken the only person that can drive a taxi is somebody that has a s.p.s.v licence because the car is licenced, taxed and insured as s.p.s.v (taxi) with the roof sign on or off,its not a private car,first of all an insurance company would not cover the taxi cab if the driver had no s.p.s.v licence,i asked my insurance povider that question once.plus the gardai would be asking lots of questions.
Martin,
I used to be an active member of the NTDU until I realised that they did nothing for us. Tommy Gorman was on the TV once, one of the very few occasions when KD showed her face. Tommy lost his temper. KD sat like a sphinx drawing him out and he swallowed it hook line and sinker. All KD had to do was to draw him out – our representative who was supposed to be an experienced negotiator – to win the argument. And his sidekick Kearns used the money he earned, OUR money from OUR contributions, to set up Xpert during his office hours. A conflict of interest and abuse of his working time that he should have used on behalf of the members. Tommy also had (has ?) a big stake in Xpert and sold the members down the swanney.
So NO, Martin, I am not a member of TTNH. I do not want to join a union just to pay a fat cat.
And yes, maybe I was a bit hasty about the tachos. I do not know what they cost but probably about a week’s earnings. Maybe even more. And for the time being I am AGAINST a fare change. the current structure is not ideal but for goodness sake at the moment during the Xmas shopping period I am earning a little bit. Another fare structure will mean a meter adjustment and sealing = cost. Higher fares ? God knows we can do with a bit more money but will Joe Soap pay ? KD effed us up when she announced through the media that the fares as indicated on the meter were maximum fares and that the public could negotiate the prince down. The result was that nearly everyone now wants a discount and taxi companies offer them – out of our pockets, not theirs ! So the meter has become something we must turn on but for the determination of the fare ? We might as well put light boxes on the roof of hacks and the heck with metered fares ! The best one is that there are now punters who go to e.g. the airport for a business trip, get a fixed fare (often determined by the base company) and demand the strip with the higher amount from the printer for their expense account. So these £$(+?!!! are pocketing part of OUR earnings !!
Well guys, I am just back from a meagre Sunday night.
See you at the rank!
@Flybynite…Well thats a good thing your not a member of that TTNH.I had a idea last night.yes it was quiet,Maybe do something to RATE 1 …Thats a disaster of a RATE and leave RATE 2 alone.I really dont know how day drivers survive on rate 1.Discounting drivers are giving 20% but another 20%,because of differences between two rates thats 40% off during the day.Some companys like NRC and Global give up 50% off fares thats 70% off a normal fare on a rate 2 fare.As far as a street fare looking for a discount i just say I work for a company and Im on a hourly rate and that the meter totals have to be handed in, that always stops it in its tracks and best of all i get a tip
,Try it it works..Anyway I dont do discount work so Ill give customer ZERO discount as jobs a far and few between.If there was Unity as those CLOWNS TTNH are saying they will get.Then there would be no discounting.Our industry is smashed and I honestly think it will never recover as just to many Taxis…
lads dont forget one thing,its NOT the radio companies who give the discount, its ths DRIVERS themselves.again its a case of drivers NOT HAVING THE BALLS to tell their respective EMPLOYERS] that they are giving no more discounts . when oh when will drivers, and indeed radio companies realize that the only function of a radio company is to find work for the people who hired them to do so. there are just an agency who YOU hired to find work for you, their remit DOES NOT extend to offering discounts[on your behalf] telling you what to wear , disiplining you because you dont want to do a particular job , in the name of god when will these drivers cop on . YOU are the organ grinder, not the monkey . its like me telling the public my wife is a very generuos woman, she would give you MY last pound
I just seen the mickey mouse protest at Parnell Sq,Mortgage goes out tomorrow,hope I make more money today…Cheers TTNH CLOWNS
TTNH are protesting for LOWER FARES ,Well why dont TTNH members ALL give a 20% discount of the meter and let US non-union heads take the 4% rise,They should shut there mouths in my view,Below is what there looking for some valid points,but alot of them are already are been looked at.Wont be long now before TTNH has its own Taxi-Company with all the money coming in..There should be a ANTI TTNH protest I for one would go to it…FFFing idiots
“What do we want?”
Well a raft of new rules are coming in, 9 year rule for taxis, stickers on the doors and a new reduced starting rate for the meters.
As things stand all the taxi merers will have to be calibrated because the memory that controls the calender has only got a 5 year cycle. It will cost around €250 to have the meter done and with higher fuel costs the money will never be recouped.
Now the consultation precess seems to be a discussion in a darkened room then they ask the public.
“ARE TAXI FARES A BIT TOO HIGH ?” So they are going with that.
The TTHC wants a few things dealt with first.
Double jobbing,
when I started I had to be available to work 40 hours a week and provide my P45 to show I had no other job.
Oversupply……You did notice that I suppose
Vetting procedures
In Spain you must be resident in the country for 2 or 3 years, be able to speak Spanish and hold a full Spanish driving license before you are tested for a taxi license..
Discount fares and illegal taxi ranks.
Speaks for itself, radio companies are offering discounts and the drivers have to give them.
Lack of appeals process.
The dept of transport is judge jury and executioner in disputes.
There is no proper negotiation process.
Students here on stamp 2 visas which forbids them from being self employed.
well done ttnh i hope you are succesful in ALL of your quest , except the scrapping of the decals
everyone over on the forum is delighted with the 41% none renewal of licences ,they are all putting it down to the cost of renewal 250 euro.however i would like to think that it is more a case of them not renewing because of the decals, letter from employer, new revenue drive to weed out the double jobbing scum, implementation of terms of working time directive etc etc
Boh this 41% non renewed licences is great news, how reliable is this info. Almost seems too good to be true.
I don’t think so BB, I’d say most of those who didn’t bother to renew were those who renewed their £3 licence because they “might as well it’s only £3″ even though they had no intention of ever using it, €250 made them think again.
well no matter the reason, its great news . have to say though, it doesent appear to be reflected on the street, there seems to be as many taxis now then ever
A lot of sense in the last few entries.
I agree, the taxi companies are supposed to be just the call centres for the drivers. No more !
They should not have the right to offer discounts, unless they want to pay themselves.
And the 5 year cycle is all good and well, but what happened if you changed your taxi, or had to have a problem sorted that forced you to get the meter re-sealed ? Doesn’t a new cycle start from that point ? In other words: Correct me if I am wrong but I do not think that ALL taxis have to have their meter recalibrated and resealed at the same time. But if there is a fare change, then that will have to be done.
9 year rule ? I am happy enough with the current situation. My Merc is no longer pristine but still very presentable. How much can you guys put aside for a replacement ? And will we get a bank loan if we have to throw away a good car, purely on the basis of the year on the licence plates ? That was a stupid move anyway, what purpose other than to trump the Joneses next door with a later year does it serve ? It will only serve to tempt drivers to stop maintaining their cars when they approach their final scrapping date. Scrapping because, no matter what condition the car is in, a former taxi does not fetch anything.
And Martin, good idea to tell fares that you are an employee but I do not get many punters in my taxi who do not know that 99.9999% of us are self employed. Unless they are foreigners. And they rarely ask for a discount.
Now let’s see how the TTNH drivers did. I do NOT want a change in the fares, neither up nor down ! And I was not out demonstrating .
Flyby, you bought into a game for €6.3K,what did you expect ? Maybe you should have got a hawkers licence.
Well Franc, how about you?
And yes, I sometimes think along the same line but I am not cut our for hawking. I have always been a driver, actually from the day when I was 21 and got my C and D licences. First trucks. And that is well over 20 years ago now! And for the last 12 or so I have been driving a taxi. And maybe it sounds daft, BUT I LOVE DRIVING ! I just do not have the same appetite for the taxi biz any more. Too much hassle. From the gardai, from KD, from the NTA. Each time we get a new regulation is costs us money and we get nothing for it in return. Only more headache.
And to those who want a fare increase: Let’s wait until we hear what is in the budget. Because I think many punters will have to cut back on just about everything. Especially taxis. And mark my word: pubs will again operate minibuses – or see the pub empty.
Maybe I will do a coach transport manager’s CPC and buy a 20 seater. ah if it just were that easy. No money in the kitty. Rule that one out, too !
@Flyby, same as you, too old to do anything else, ‘though i’m happy enough to know my licence dies with me,since my dog licence,TV licence are non-transferable ,why should the taxi licence go on in perpetuity?.
If it’s of any interest I have the NTA up in court,more of that anon.
Never too old Franc, take up photography or something , do a course .. you might get good!
See you’re still using the photo of your son as an avatar ? hahaha.
That’s me, taken about 4 years ago during a brief sojourn as a skinny person, just to prove I could do it ….. you could try a similar trick and grow your hair back.
I was the first to shave my head ,and remember ,Baldness doesn’t cause Diabetes hahahahahaha!!
I’m always amazed at what you find funny Brian.