Have Labour lived up to their promises?

Letter sent To Joe Costello and Eamon Gilmore, written by a concerned Taxi driver (edited for Publication)

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Hi Joe and Eamonn ,

I am writing to you for the third and final time having received no response to date., either to the mails or the phone messages left with your office.

I now wish to inform you and The Labour Party of a campaign that  I and fellow Taxi Drivers will begin in January 2014 .

As you are aware, in Dublin 7 there are a large number of Taxi drivers,  our Intention is to visit each and every Taxi Driver’s Home in the area and give them the Labour party Taxi policy document, in which you promised Taxi Drivers you would sort out all aspects of our industry making it viable for taxi drivers to make a living again. We will go through the document with them and ask them what they feel has been done.

I can assure you the answer is “nothing”,  in fact it’s now worse . We will also ask if they will ever vote labour again.

As nothing has been delivered from your pre election taxi policy document to date, I will now highlight some of the new changes that will effect taxi drivers from the Taxi Bill:

Increase of fines for trying to get on to a rank , despite there being the less then 750 taxi spaces for 11,699 Taxis in Dublin .   1 space for approx. every 19 Taxis .

Demerit Points.

Power given to the National Transport Authority to bring in regulations without consultation with the Taxi Industry.

You  may be aware that non Irish taxi  drivers face discrimination at ranks, passengers pass and get in with an Irish driver,  it seems this behaviour is been encouraged as a driver who refuses to take a passenger  will be fined .

Labour has failed to deal with the Double jobbers.

Other  issues we face are

The removal of 5 taxi ranks to facilitate luas

Rickshaws flying around every night,  uninsured, carrying passengers

Why do I and every other Taxi driver need to comply with all rules and regulations, when rickshaws charge higher prices with no regulations imposed on them .

Also there is a lack of facilities  for taxis at public events.

I now put it to you that the labour  party has done nothing to date to sort out the Taxi industry as promised.

Finally,  I assure you again, I will be visiting taxi drivers homes in January 2014  and with the help of fellow taxi drivers will try to push this campaign throughout Dublin, using social networking and a series of meetings .

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241 thoughts on “Have Labour lived up to their promises?

  1. Gordo

    Roy .. Is it just labour you will be targeting in your visits to fellow drivers doors ? Surely the other parties have a lot to answer for aswell , do you feel there is any particular party out there that has paid more then lip service to promises to help the resolve the issues that remain within the taxi industry ?

    Surely all parties have made promises on the taxi industry before the last elections ? Will you be doing this with all parties to drive home the message ?

  2. Rat Catcher

    FFS Roy, your opinion changes as frequently as Irish weather. One week you’re singing Minister Kelly’s praises, the next you are organising campaigns against Labour!

    I have heard Minister Kelly on the wireless clearly stating that he is all about full-time taxi drivers. He, and he alone, introduced additional signage for taxis to discourage double jobbers. He, and he alone, reiterated the Authority’s statutory power to regulate drivers’ hours with particular reference to the possibility of reckoning driving hours in other employments.

    Drivers must, however, appreciate that are are other interested parties. The disabled lobby would like more WATs and the Minister has set the ball rolling to facilitate the issue of more vehicle licences by lowering current WAT standards to reduce the level of investment required. The Minister has also assured fleet operators that their plates will not die with them and he has addressed the demand for more cost effective services in rural areas (demand that is often satisfied by unlicensed operators) by outlining plans for a Local Area Hackney Licence.

    It is very easy to look at the hard numbers, observe that a far greater proportion of the fleet is now owned by MPOs and to twist that fact to try and support a conclusion that Minister Kelly is not all about full-time drivers but, at the end of the day, I heard it from his own lips. The Minister is all about full-time drivers.

    Vote Labour.

  3. sclass

    The best Labour promise of all.One man One plate plate.
    But as Pat Rabbit said on national tv .Thats what you do when canvassing make promises.
    So what has Labour achieved for the taxi industry.has Kelly the junior gofor dealt with any of the issues he admitted on radio was a major problem in the industry .Oversupply .There is just to many Taxis and until its dealt with nothing will change We now know Kelly the junior gofor was spewing a crock of shit. Lets hope we can bury the fukers the next election.

  4. bohemian boy

    i spoke to a rep from one of the orginisations some time ago about what way he seen the future of the industry going. he had very good ideas, but the only thing we disagreed on was,i could not support the softly softly approach taken by his orginisation in relation to illegal ranks.his argument was that what were the illegal rankers to do,as there was nowhere for them to park. my argument was,and still is, surely as a rep body that is their job to negociate with DCC for the provision of more rank spaces,but this in no way should justify illegal ranking which has the effect of stealing work from the drivers who want to play by the rules. as far as im concerned if drivers feel there is not enough rank spaces, then surely the people to approach are the reps and instruct them to talk to the council

  5. johnm

    Over on the forum before the last election .I pointed out that the Labour taxi agenda was a crok of crap.The political classes laugh their heads off at taxi drivers .Taxi drives cannot organise a rank of 4 cars to work properly so how would or could they organise to get the taxi vote out to support any political party or candidate .In the business of politics taxi drivers have no influence on the outcome of any ballot.There is recognisably international law that allows any individual accumulate assets so limiting one man to one plate was never going to be a runner .

    Again your esteemed reps looked for something that was not achievable and useless .If I have 100 plates on 100 cars how much money do I earn from owning those cars .Think before you answer …………………… The answer is nothing not a penny .

    If I have one psv driving licence how much can I earn …….9 euro an hour or 15 at weekends according to Indecon .

    So in the taxi industry a licenced taxi without a driver is of no use .You need a driver to activate the unit into a money maker .What reps should of been calling for all along was a test similar to the Knowledge to reduce the amount of available drivers .Without available drivers the MPO would have no customers .

    The Taxiwhatsit know this is the only way to control numbers by controlling the supply of drivers as legally they cannot control the supply of vehicles .The new WAT only entry is nonsense WAT only means an engineered standard of a big door and a ramp they do not provide any service for mobility impaired passengers as they do not come with a trained operator.The review could of said all new taxies coming into the fleet should have stereo radios .That would of been as effective in reducing numbers as a WAT only standard .

    The Taxiwhatsit increased the PSV licence fee from 3 quid to 250 and the reps roared and shouted and threw their dummies out of the pram but as a result of the increase the number of people who held PSV licences dropped which reduced the amount of people licensed to rent a car for the weekend .

    The Taxi thingey then introduced a certified drivers requirement and the reps cried so hard they made themself sick .We dont want to do that we want a grandfather rule .Old white Irish drivers might not pass the test .So the overall idea of a stiffer entry test that would reduce entry by new drivers was torpedoed by your reps .

    So the taxiwhatsit have done everything within the law that taxi drivers asked .In fact the Minister and the Department and the Taxiwhatsit are the most proactive department in government .Your reps asked for deregulation and more taxi licences and got them .They asked for a piss poor entry requirement because they believed that their members were to stupit to pass a proper entry test and got it .They asked for WATs but no training for drivers so drivers would not be compelled to pick up wheelchair passengers and they got it .They then called for a very low standard of vehicle at least 9yers old and got it .Your reps then asked for fines for their members in stead of more rank spaces and the taxiwhatsit gave them that as well.Not satisfied with all the help the minister and the department and the taxiwhatsit had given them by granting them everything they ever asked for they then turned their attention to the Corporation and asked for the by laws to be changed to allow off street ranking at events .The reps dispatcher friends will organise this for them.

    Anybody notice a trend here?

  6. johnm

    Boh let me try to explain the rank issue using simple supply and demand economics .Una and Seamus go for a drink and a meal in D and N on Baggott Street after work they meet with 400 of their work colleagues and enjoy themself .On leaving they go outside and get into a taxi that is illegally parked outside .Now the trained economist would say that the passengers demand for taxi transport has been met .The taxi driver would say his requirement of a paying passenger has been met the proprietor of the venue would say that the drinking /dining experience of his customer has been enhanced by the availability of an excellent transport service .

    Now DCC traffic department look at the road profile outside Dand N and apply a simple traffic flow matrix .They ask is the flow of traffic and other road users being affected by the service provision If the answer is no then .The provision of space for a taxi to operate outside Dand N could be classed as benifical it meets a recognised demand by not allowing this demand to be met DCC are acting contrary to the common good .

    Now Boh here are two options .Option 1 my preferred option .Make the case to DCC based on a service provision module that recognises the need of the passenger and the willingness of to encourage the provision of rank space outside Dand N .Everybody is a winner .

    Option two which seems to be well supported .Get out the bucket of nails and the hammer and shout crusify them crusify them demand that drivers who are providing the service the passengers require should be punished so other drivers who are providing the service that passengers require can get the work .

    Do you remember in low babies the teacher would cut the class in two and one side of the class would start to sing Frair is Jackka and a few seconds later the other side of the class would start to sing the same song .It always got messed up .Same song two different singers .When you went into big school things changed you joined the choir .Everybody sang the same song and started togeather it sounder a million times better than than two singers singing the same song at different times .

    The crusify argument is nonsense it wont work its like fukking a stone into a hornets nest all you do is make the hornets fly around.The people in D and N wont take a taxi outside on Baggott Street because of the congestion with taxies burning off expensive fuel as they have nowhere to roost .They will just walk up to the junction or walk home if they live close by .

    You getting the picture .People are more likely to use your service when it is immediately available .instantly accessible.under their nose .The real skill in taxi driving is not the ability to drive but the ability to provide a service where it is needed .Taxi drivers and their reps should be encouraging taxies to provide a more focused service exactly where the customer wants it .They should be working with business and councils to promote a more passenger focused service that would increase useage .Instead some drivers prefer to point and shout look he is giving the passenger what they want and I dont like it .

    Every location in the city where there is a demand for taxies and taxies stopping there does not cause any interference with other road users of emergency services taxies should be allowed to stop .A simple blue line or some other mark should be put in place to denote this .The provision of taxi ranks is arbitrator it depends on the whim of some city or urban planner .Taxies parked illegally on templebar are providing a much needed service for people As opposed to taxies not stopping but circulating around the block would cause air polution traffic congestion extra fuel costs for drivers and would possibly put people off taking taxies in that congested area .If there was strict enforcement of ranks what good would it do you?It would be back to low babies playing musical chairs Thousands of drivers driving around in circles making a nuisance of themself waiting for a flicker of an indicator from the first car slamming on his brakes to get the position after the rank moved up one always providing that every car and driver is primed and ready to move like a grand prix start as soon as the first car is away /The traffic is being held up as the first reserve waits for the rank to move Tall Tony is gone up a lane for a shit and his car cant move .The bus driver is blowing his horn at the first reserve waiting on Tony to wipe his hole and move his car .The result is organised confusion .Giddion Smallhorn TD asks the Minister to do away with ranks altogeather as they are destroying the traffic flow and adopt a similar service provision as NY no ranks but dispatch depos and cruising .The cost of cruising will force drivers into depots .Boh your fighting a battle that has no winners prize .

  7. bohemian boy

    John we, as licence holders pay the NTA to provide certain services to us like the proper regulation of our industry. do you not think the NTA have a duty to engage in an advertising tv and radio campaign advising people not to use illegal taxi ranks ?

  8. johnm

    Im sorry but its a long winded answer .There is only one type of rank and that is a legal one .Drivers stopping by the roadside to provide a service do not constitute a rank .So the answer to your question is no .There is no such entity in law as an illegal rank .Taxi ranks are clearly marked .

    Towrag Dispatchers is your personal description .Dispatchers are licenced by the taxithingey .the relationship between those who use their service and the service provider is a personal one .I use Hailo and they suit my needs .I have a good relationship with vinny and if I ever thought of making the required commitment I would probably talk to him .

    Boh you personalise things to much .We are involved in a competitive market place with lots of business decisions to make saloon or van day or night radio or not .It would be unwise to assume that drivers using a dispatcher do not get what they are looking for out of it .If they are not happy they can leave .I personally have no interest in how much or how little the man in front or behind me on the rank earns or if he has a radio or not .

  9. johnm

    JUNIOR Minister Alan Kelly has blamed an “administrative oversight” for the missing Labour logo on posters for his constituency clinics.ENOUGH SAID

  10. bohemian boy

    John you missed the point.regarding dispatchers. my point is in some cases they are NOT operating legally,like hotel car parks for instance. also they seem to think that they are the only ones who have a right to operate in this industry,and that there is no place in it for independents. i am not nieve enough to think the drivers working with them are not making money, but i just wonder where their principles are by allowing these towrags to treat them like as if they were their EMPLOYEES. they decide for them what to wear, what to charge,diciplian them for giving back heavily discounted work that THEY negociated the price for, they DO NOT monitor work going out the back door etc etc . the drivers are aware of all this, but dont have the balls to stick up for their principles

  11. johnm

    Boh There is no law against operating in hotel carparks Eddie Fullerton is /was wrong .The Councils have the right to make by laws and there is no by law preventing it .Council by laws only cover the public highway which is defined as public roads that are maintained by the council .

    Boh there are very few principles other than the bottom line in business .Last October i had a drink with the RAT he showed me an app he developed he was talking with people who needed a reliable service for wheelchair bound passengers .He was not posting on Roys so I said I would post and see if anybody was interested we got NO replies .

    There is to much diversity in this industry .Your reps dont know what % of drivers are full time /part time /renting/starving/.There is one outstanding Rep on here his name is Francis he has it sussed .His opening address to prospective members is what did you expect for six and a bit (he robbed that on me )Before anybody answers he moves on.because everybody wanted something different .A large % of taxi drivers are getting more than they expected from the game free time, flexible hours.more money than they ever earned working 40 hours in a factory I know you wont believe this but the majority of drivers are happy with their lot the ones that are not leave give up or get another full time or part time gig .

  12. bohemian boy

    John i had the opertunity recently to return to the Irish ballad scene where i used to play in various pubs around dublin . i declined because in my opinion this is double jobbing. the money on offer was quite good, but i still declined in support of my principles

  13. Paudie

    these former factory workers must have had really crap pay, if they are happy with what they are making now. they have free time (lots of it ) and flexible hours, but very little else.
    boh you should reconsider the music offer, bet it will pay better than taxi work at present.

  14. johnm

    No conflict at all if you are singing then another driver get the chance to cover your work if you are driving then another troubadour gets to pefrorm ..Would look like a win win situation you would then be able to do both and be known as the singing taxi driver

  15. Rat Catcher

    Are ya mad BB? Do the gigs FFS and don’t be depriving the audience of your talents. Taxi drivers won’t mind covering the fares you would have done while you’re earning some real loot… more money in their pockets, more money in your pocket… win, win all round.

  16. sclass

    Bo I agree with Rat your taking DJ a bit serious
    Enjoy yourself .I was going to say get the price of a few pints.And then i remembered you don’t drink.

  17. bohemian boy

    sclass when we used to do it before about 10 years ago, we were entitled 3 pints of beer each, and 300 between us per night. i used to give my pints to the other lads. the money was never important,we used to do it for the love of Irish music. we were eventually replaced by the famous Matt molloy a truly great musician

  18. Roy Post author

    Don’t you see BB, When your singing ballads the rest of the fleet divvy up your wages.
    therein lies the dilemma :
    Taxi drivers taking up second jobs …Good
    People with other jobs taking up Taxi driving … Bad
    Double Jobbers who weren’t Taxi driving already out!

  19. Rat Catcher

    I wouldn’t even class it as double jobbing. Surely it’s just pursuing a hobby which you enjoy and, perhaps more importantly, preserving, promoting and passing on a cultural tradition…. but don’t forgrt the pen knife for the bodhran.

  20. true dub

    Hi William, eh yes we do believe that the industry revolves around taxi men and women, thats a very silly question really, and if something you do causes you to feel sick the normal thing to cure the sickness is to stop doing the activity that causes your nausea.

  21. ger

    Listen billy no mates. Ok we will have a nice long chat about the taxi industry in ballygobleedinbackwards, you first me auld flower, off ya go, get it off yisa chest.im waiting. Zzzzzzzzzz.

  22. Billy Conway

    O sorry I taught this website was called Irish taxi not Dublin taxi with comments like the above no wonder the taxi industry is in the state it is. And comment by true dub what ever that means. I said taxi men and woman IN (DUBLIN).

  23. Roy Post author

    If you would like to tell me about issues relating specifically to where you are I’d be happy to publicise them for you Billy, meanwhile you could go to the forum section of the Site where you will find contributors from a number of Irish counties and news reports stemming from all of them.
    I started the blog to comment on my own personal day to day activities in the game (it subsequently became something else) as I’m an Irish Taxi driver who owns a Nationalised plate I decided to call it Irish Taxi (also there is an excellent blogger already using the Dublin Taxi username)
    I hope this satisfies your curiosity as to how the name of the site came about.

  24. Billy Conway

    Tanks Roy for your non judgmental response but I think I will keep up the fight for the all over Ireland taxi men and woman down here in the midlands on a professional basis no offence to u by that comment.

  25. bohemian boy

    Billy are you aware there is a rep body called the taxi allience of Ireland ? it represents drivers from all over the country who meet from time to time for the purpose of giving drivers a voice nationwide

  26. sclass

    It was absolutely shite last night. I’ll have to consider doing days how do you change the body clock after years on nights. And then the roads that are empty at night are blocked up by day . I’ll have to find out the day spots. I’ll be a new lad on the block..Maybe Roy will show me the ropes he seems happy enough on days. I’ll look for me sunglasses.

  27. Rat Catcher

    820 driver telling me they’re still screaming for cars, maybe time for a rethink SC… the vast majority of taxis (and therefore taxi drivers) operate up above in Dublin Billy. We can’t blame Roy for that…. or, maybe, if we put our minds to it…

  28. true dub

    Hi William, fair play to you in complementing Roy on his non judgemental reply to your comment,
    and in my second reply to your opening very judgemental comment, what exactly did you have in mind for keeping up the fight in the midlands, there are a few posters from your neck of the woods who have been active.

  29. bohemian boy

    over on the forum they are questioning if j 2 visa holders can work in transport or not,my understanding is, that the difficulty for them arises because of their status of being self employed, in addition to the amount of hours they can work.hopefully it will prove to be the case that they are indeed operating illegally,and their licences will be withdrawn. if this proves to be the case, then kelly,kearns,and ebbs will be down a whole lot more drivers

  30. Ben

    interesting item on the daily mail online app shows the danger of taxi drivers working 24 hour shifts. shows a driver knocking down a woman, who was very lucky to survive. driver said he could not remember the accident, just shows how tired he was. only a matter of time before same thing happens here with some scab.

  31. Ben

    he can well afford to change his car. why have dublin bus not put a stop to his dangerous working hours. what kind of a crazy system allows that guy to put lives at risk.

  32. ger

    They will put a stop to it when one of those muppets falls asleep, crashes the bus and kills a load of people. But not before, this is ireland, action is only ever taken after the event. Sclass are ya sure it was him? Did ya zap him on the app. I often wondered what kind of tax these double jobbers pay? Should they not pay like 50% of their earnings in tax from their 2nd job. Anyway NEWSFLASH , TAXI GAME IS FOOKED.

  33. Ben

    its only a matter of time before a disaster will happen, and yes it will stop then, and only then. its the irish way of doing things. taxman is not alert to these scabs at all, they should be paying sky high tax on double job earnings. tax the fookers out. why can health and safety legislation not stop them ??

  34. sclass

    A were still talking about it..what’s the rush. It’s only about 3 years now since the primetime exposed Mr Kennedy ..These things take time you should know that.Don’t forget Minister Kelly gave up two years of his life for us shity little taxi drivers

  35. Ben

    nothing will change in the taxi industry because no one cares anymore. scabs and bogies will prosper, while an owner driver will always struggle. its time to get out, and leave it to the scum.

  36. Rat Catcher

    Most double jobbers would be entitled to a rebate on income tax paid in their auxiliary occupation. Capital Allowances and losses in trade can be offset against income from any other source for the relevant year.

    According to Indecon 2011 part-timers average c.17 hours per week and full-timers 57 hours. Even adding a 35 hour working week part-timers work less than full-timers which would suggest that they ought to be less likely to suffer from fatigue.

  37. Ben

    i dont agree with Mr Rats claim that full time drivers work longer hours than scabs. Surely the likes of kennedy dublin bus spends more than 17 hours per week in this scab cab.

  38. sclass

    Because they got paid big bucks You can’t expect to get paid for blank paper
    But if you fill them full of crap governments pay big money .The more crap the more confusion the more they don’t understand so they just pay up.simple.

  39. Rat Catcher

    Sorry to cloud the discussion with facts. Indecon based it’s conclusions on a survey commissioned by NTA/TRD under the direction of Kathleen Doyle. I haven’t seen any research paper which contradicts those findings.

    PTI is by it’s nature senationalist. Kennedy would have been tailed for months on end with the “best” week used in the programme.

    If you can find other work, not an easy task for older drivers in the current economic climate, you’d be mad not to Ben. There is life outside of taxi driving. Sure it was good while drivers could make decent money in return for little or no investment but like all good things…

  40. Rat Catcher

    P.S. One might question why PTI could only find one double jobber doing those hours, why it picked on an immigrant, etc, etc… What’s not reported is often more relevant.

  41. Ben

    Rat its not easy for a 60 year old to find other work. taxi driving is all I know, and I don’t want to give it up. I have been at it for most of my working life.
    not surprised to hear doyle had a hand in this survey. totally stupid fool.
    I don’t expect the really good old days to ever return, but if we could make a decent living, it would be great. and enforcement would be a help, if we had any.
    do you reckon kennedy spends less than maybe 60 hours per week in his scab cab, that’s after doing his shift in his Dublin bus.

  42. Rat Catcher

    No, I’m not suggesting that PTI is racist. I think the show was axed on foot of malpractice on the part of it’s journalists which obviously discredits it’s findings but that’s largely irrelevant. The producers would know how to make the thing as sensationalist as possible, that’s their job, hence the tactic of assigning the private investigators to immigrants… that’s not racist, it’s just “what sells papers” so to speak.

    Of course PTI would have picked the “best” week to report although Kennedy does cloud the hours he works by staying logged in on the driver module constantly. If any significant number of drivers working those hours, why could PTI, with all it’s resources, only find one?

  43. Ben

    they picked one good example on him, as he really abuses the system. he is a constant danger on the road, all because of pure greed.
    pti screwed up with the Fr. Reynolds case. it was appalling what they said about that man.

  44. Rat Catcher

    Yes, a “good” example in the context of sensationalising their findings… not necessarily a fair example. Where’s the data for all the other weeks they tailed him? Where’s the data for all the other double jobbers they tailed?

    Pure greed is a bit strong… the man is working hard to build a better life for his family in an environment where he could just sit back and scrounge off the State. It’s difficult to be too critical of that per se. Taxi driving is not a vocation for most drivers, just a handy way to make a few notes… although, obviously not as handy as it was during the tiger years.

  45. Ben

    i repeat pure greed, and putting lives at risk. does anyone in dublin bus or nta care about passenger safety. wait until he, or some other greedy scab like him, has an accident. all the politicians will be in hiding them, because they all know its going on now. but no one will stop it.
    rat you have the part timers mentality “just a few notes “

  46. bohemian boy

    i think even strong supporters of the decals like Roy, myself etc would have to now admit they have had absolutely no effect whatsoever on double jobbers. they caused little more then a slight inconvenience to them the same as the rest of us. although the erm is now gone, his words are certainly ringing through .IT WAS A BOTTLE OF SMOKE

  47. bohemian boy

    heres an interesting one, i was just reading on the CWU [communications workers union] website, regarding payment of PRSI. an employee who is employed by either an post, or eircom , and who is subject to class d payments of prsi ie [civil service rate of payment contributions] cannot make class d payments in respect of that employment, and class s contributions in respect of part time self employment.so how do the double jobbers in these two companies work around that assuming they are making PRSI contributions in respect of their taxi driving work ? their contributions with either of these companies is stopped at source, but this is not the case with taxi driving where they have to self declare and as the CWU website says,they cannot make two different contributions at the same time with two different classes of payment. can anyone explain ? Roy, rat, anyone

  48. Rat Catcher

    Be realistic Ben. The vast majority of drivers are freeloaders who came in after Ahern, Molloy and Harney opened up the trade to any unemployable waster with a ton to invest. I can appreciate how some of the older men may be emotionally attached to the trade but they are very few and very far between at this juncture and, to be honest, they’re probably just too lazy to get up off their arses and move on if truth be known perhaps finding it easier to whinge about how hard life has been to them, etc…

    To be fair to Minister Kelly, even with little or no reduction in drivers operating up above in Dublin, there are PAYE taxi driving jobs advertised at rates of pay in excess of EUR11.39/hour with no investment risk. By comparison to Indecon’s figures that is a significant increase on what self-employed men could earn when the Minister assumed responsibility.

    Class B, C and D PRSI contributions apply to Civil Servants recruited before 6 April 1995. Those eligible pay a lower rate than employees in general but they have no entitlement to state pension or to contributory old age pension – they get an occupational pension. They cannot acquire those rights by electing to contribute at Class S. It’s more of an anti-avoidance measure than anything else.

  49. bohemian boy

    rat i paid class d before 1995 and then moved on to the employment appeals tribunal where i dont know what class i paid as i was not established there unlike eircom. i now pay class s so what is my position oh noble one

  50. bohemian boy

    rat you still did not explain how can someone in employment in [say] Eircom who is established before 1995 be paying class d, and at the same time working part time driving a taxi and paying class s.according to the cwu this is not possible.

  51. Rat Catcher

    I thought I explained. It’s not possible for a Class D individual to elect to contribute under class S, the rationale being that if it were possible individuals could acquire additional benefits by so electing and would therefore circumvent the restrictions that apply to class D. Therefore such an individual’s entire contribution must be classed as class D or a subclass thereof.

  52. Rat Catcher

    Sorry BB, didn’t read your first reply. Assuming you’re retired from the Civil Service and not a double jobber (perish the thought), PRSI doesn’t apply to your occupational pension. The class applied to your self-employed income will be shown on your Tax Assessment.

  53. Rat Catcher

    I can’t remember how the Eircom man you refer to is treated, it’s an age since I studied this stuff. The only advice I could give him is fill in the tax return (including all income obviously) and see what’s on the Assessment. I have done tax returns for one class D contributor but his taxi driving produced a loss so his assessment is of no help to me.

  54. Rat Catcher

    BTW… the difference between non-contributory and contributory pension is negligible, just the non-contrib is means tested… as billions of immigrants can confirm, ya’ll not starve in our great little country!

  55. Rat Catcher

    Sorry for the broken responses, I’m doing twelve things at once here and keep reading one reply fron you, answering it and then noticing i missed one….

  56. Rat Catcher

    A little off topic but just read the new schedule of fines and I want to congratulate all those who campaigned for a little realism in dealing with illegals, noting that we did ask for such a revision within the review submission to which I contributed.

    For example EUR250 for informal ranking was way OTT. Revision to EUR40 is to be welcomed and at least shows that they do take notice of those who take the time to engage with consultation processes.

    However, let’s hope it doesn’t lead to enforcers getting trigger happy. As Jill Barry told me (and I can confirm from experience) issuing a fine is generally not the immediate reaction of an enforcement officer. Even the Traffic Corp tend to give you a chance to move on and only issue a ticket if you repeat the offence within a short period or react in a disrespectful manner.

  57. Ben

    I will never pay a fine for hanging off the back of a rank, while private cars are parked on ranks and get away with it. its quite common where I live and work. asked a guy recently to move his very nice Volvo off the rank, and he went for me. was roaring that he would break my effin neck. phoned the cops and let them deal with it. he was in the pub beside the rank, I went in with cop and pointed him out. and they took him out of pub. I had last laugh. I think its going to court, he was very abusive.

  58. Ben

    foreign people have no bother getting medical cards, and lots of other handouts in this stone mad country. Irish people get nothing. roll on a general election.

  59. Rat Catcher

    For over-ranking on an official stand, I think a much higher fine should apply. The marked area is marked for a reason and not observing such restrictions causes inconvenience and/or danger to other road users. However, with a taxi:rank space ratio in excess of 18.27:1 up above in Dublin and in excess of 200:1 in Swords, Fingal (for example) informal ranks are inevitable and are best policed on a common sense basis i.e. if there is likely demand where an informal rank is formed and the rank is not causing inconvenience or danger to other road users it makes no sense to penalise the drivers providing the service.

    Whatever way you look at it fines amount to money flowing out of drivers pockets which cannot be good for drivers. It’s not the case that only the illegal drivers suffer as drivers who receive fines are going to work extra hours to cover the extra expense which has the effect of spreading the burden among all drivers and may present dangers to the driver, his customers and other road users on account of fatigue.

    As always one must be cautious in welcoming reform. In this case the danger is that enforcers may be more likely to issue the fines. Setting the fines at realistic levels could well lead to increased income for the Authority as drivers won’t be deterred by the occasional fine. In simple terms, if a habitual informal ranker gets a EUR40 fine every 3 months or so it won’t bother him whereas if it were a EUR250 fine it may deter him and his colleagues from committing the offence going forward which would be self-defeating in the context of building a cost-effective enforcement service and inconvenient for customers.

  60. bohemian boy

    250 is not enough of a penalty for these towrags who form illegal ranks for the purpose of stealing from their colleagues who want to do the right thing. do you want a fully professional industry or not ?

  61. Rat Catcher

    We always had informal ranks. They form part of a professional service. A professional service is about providing customers with that service where and when they want it, it’s as simple as that. Drivers, particularly those that are reliant on the trade for a living, need as much work as they can get. Why should a Swords based driver, for example, have to subscribe to Cab2000 to access work that arises on Main St?

    Higher penalties could deter drivers from breaking the rules and therefore risk becoming self-defeating in the context of maintaining a cost-effective enforcement service. If the service cannot be run on a cost-effective basis it will have to be funded through licence fees. It’s OK for a wireless man or a double jobber or a man with a huge Civil Service pension in his back sack to campaign for higher licence fees but what about blokes like Paudie and S Class and Ben, blokes who rely on the trade for an income, how can they be expected to pay more?

    In any event, it was extremely difficult to get a EUR250 penalty. As Jill Barry told me (and I can confirm from experience) reaching for the ticket book was not the officers’ instinctive reaction. Maybe they will be less apprehensive in issuing the lower fines. The Gardai apply common sense in accommodating informal ranks and have done for at least 36 years. If it ain’t broke…

    I don’t think the submission to which I contributed was the only one that called for reform in this area, what did CTA suggest?

  62. Rat Catcher

    What do you mean roll on heavier fines? The fines have been reduced, from EUR250 to EUR40 in the case of over-ranking and informal ranking.

    Ben clearly stated that he would refuse to pay any penalty for over-ranking BB.

    Again, you’re not telling us what CTA asked for. What have you got to hide this time?

    Again, I say you are playing to the gallery. With the greatest of respect to Ben, Paudie and S Class they do not have your experience of civil service double speak. You, on the other hand:

    – claim to oppose immigrant participation while your organisation campaigns to have vetting standards relaxed to match the security industry.

    – give the impression that you support posts complaining about immigrant drivers claiming welfare while your organisation was instrumental in ensuring that said immigrants are given welfare to supplement their taxi driving income.

    You play these boys with the finesse of a fiddler trying to drown out the bodhran!

  63. Ben

    let me clarify my position on fines. if i have to hang off the back of a rank because some ignorant muppet has parked a private car on the rank, i will not pay any fine. whether its a cop, or a guy from nta, they will be told the same thing. move the private car, so i can park legally. and fine the private car.

  64. Rat Catcher

    Well, let me ask you Ben. Can you afford a significant increase in licence fees to pay for enforcement? Can you afford to have the illegals working on your legal ranks?

    Now let’s imagine a similar non-wireless man working in Swords, Fingal. Why do you imagine BB wants him penalised for competing with the walk in base? Why would it be in BBs interest to force that man to pay a wireless subscription?

    BB is a great man with the rhetoric but when you examine what he wants it’s very simple. He wants you priced out of the game. Harney, Molloy and Ahern let him in and he wants it all! He has a long career behind him and all the financial security that delivers. He’ll not be the one forced out by the effects of increased competition and increased licence fees. That’ll be you, and he’ll be on here to sympathise with you while he’s sitting on a rank waiting to collect your wages.

    Seeing as BB won’t tell me, can you tell me what was requested within the submission to which his organisation contributed on the subject of fines and how that fits in with the bullshit he posts here?

    I’m not being disrespectful to you, Paudie or S Class Ben but BB knows what he’s at. BB knows that once he gives the impression that the immigrants will suffer fines the three of ye will go away (to borrow a phrase once used by a great GAA commentator) fit for bulling cows!

  65. Rat Catcher

    You still won’t tell me what your organisation asked the review group to do on fines. Why not?

    Maybe you’ll tell me how much your organisation gives in political contributions to Councillors in Fingal. I’m guessing it’s a very round number and a long way behind what Cab2000 donate hence the official taxi stand being tucked away out of sight while Cab200 maintains it’s prime protected location. Now, to add insult to injury, you (but not necessarily your organisation) want drivers heavily penalised for competing with the base…. next week you’ll be on calling base operators scum,bags to the applause of the gallery!

  66. Ben

    no i cannot afford any increase in licence fees, they are already too costly. and no i dont want illegals working anywhere . and no i am not fit for bulling cows. gone too old !!

  67. Rat Catcher

    So, be careful what you wish for. If the men weren’t allowed to work in Swords or at the Venue, they wouldn’t all subscribe to Cab200, many would simply work the ranks up above in Dublin instead. The same would apply to the men that work at suburban/rural pubs all over the country in different areas of concentration.

    Of course, the rural pubs are getting Hackney stands to accommodate Minister Kelly’s Local Area Hackneys – Did you ever honestly believe that you’d see the day when taxis are prevented from ranking to make way for hackney ranks? I’ll say it again, and this time I’ll shout… BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!

  68. Rat Catcher

    Minister Kelly is a man of action, there’s no doubt about that. Every determination is being progressed in one way or another. Fines have been reduced. Owner divers’ plates are being expired in favour of a fleet controlled system. The new WAT standard have been formally proposed by NTA. The WAT dispatch app is under development. Taxis are required to carry door stickers, etc, etc, etc. There’s no reason to think the Minister will back down on Local Area Hackneys complete with Hackney Ranks.

    As a funny aside, where I live in Balbriggan we had the only Official Hackney Stand in the country until I eventually succeeded in convincing the authorities that it was illegal. They put a Taxi Rank outside the Hackney office and then put a sign on the pole that said “Hackney Only”, bold as brass. Eventually they removed the “Hackney Only” sign and turned the taxi sign around but the Hacks still park there.

  69. bohemian boy

    rat you must be asleep, i have been calling base operators sc,mbags for months now. sure why wouldnt i arent they giving work out the back door to their cronies like it was going out of fashion

  70. Rat Catcher

    So why do you (but not necessarily your organisation) want non-affiliated drivers to be heavily penalised for competing with their fleets? Wheres the advantage in forcing men to subscribe?

  71. bohemian boy

    ok gallery, i want you to applaud very loudly. i also want to be poplar ill cry if you dont tell me you all like me,oh and by the way i am only 6 and a half years at this game. jeeez the rat has my character off to a tee

  72. Rat Catcher

    Far from being a character defect, only being 6 and a half (I guess the half is important) years at the game shows strength of character. You had a life outside of taxi driving which is a more than a lot of the men could ever hope for.

    Not understanding the history of the game from a first hand perspective may, however, be a handicap in handing down determinations on how the game should be run. For example we’ve had informal ranks for over 3 decades and they have served both drivers and customers very well.

    Anyway you know why your contributions wind me up. You type one thing on here and campaign for something completely contradictory time after time after time after time. The one area in which the men have hit the cab firms since deregulation is by taking their walk-in work and you want to reverse it. If you got your way (thankfully the Authorities disagree with you) Pony Cabs would be back on Gerorges St, Checkers would be back on Parnell St, etc, etc, etc, all in an act.

  73. Ben

    rat if only that junior minister kelly would hire a few enforcement staff, and get the illegal skum off the road. i might say he is earning his salary.
    but so far, he is a total failure.

  74. true dub

    Ben there is a recruitment ban in the public service, Minister Kelly already has over 13,000 authorised officers at his disposal why would/should he need to recruit any more ?

  75. bohemian boy

    dont make me laugh. you are actually funny me auld mate, when it comes to being contradictory you are the king. one day you are slagging off TTNH, the next day they are your new best friends, another time you would be having a go at cab companies, the next day you cannot talk highly enough about them etc etc. your history is over on the forum for anyone to read.how many times in the past have i pointed this out to you ? the fact that i am only 6 and a bit in the game does not mean i should not have a view on its future direction does it ? also when i was a member of the CWU new members were actively encouraged to get involved in their union with a view to shaping the future.can you find me anyone on here who gives a fukk about the fact that i am only 6 and a bit in the game ? the fact of the matter is you have never got over what i said a few months back, and you will stop at nothing till you extract revenge. i apologised then, and would willing do so again,but whats the point you are just riddled with hate,and cannot accept the industry is not the same now as it was then. [baton down the hatches lads im going to pay for this]

  76. bohemian boy

    Ben the rat welcomes all this illegal standing for hire,sure isnt that what all his previous posts have promoting.he is at pains to point out to me that it has been that way for decades,and how dare i try to change it

  77. true dub

    BB I dont care how long you are in the game, can you post the relevant quotes you refer to, and make sure you put them into the proper context, I havent the foggiest notion what you said a few months back and whether you felt the need to apologise is irrelevant, in relation to enforcement all I did was to point out the facts.

  78. bohemian boy

    TD let me explain whats going on. a few months ago i had a guy as a fare. this guy turned out to be a major renter of taxis. during the course of the conversation, certain names came up regarding who rents from him. he mentioned the rat as being one such renter, when i said this to the rat in reply to one of his posts, he blew a fuse and insisted that the guy was talking about the past,and not the present. i apologised then for my wrongful statement,but the rat has continued to pick me up on every posts i have submitted since then. last week he defined my character as being someone who likes to be poplar,who plays to the gallery,and who is only a short time in the industry.all of which is correct,but is hardly relevant.i make no apologises for any of the above.he also says if i had my way checkers would be back in Parnell st,does he not know Dublin central taxis are there at the moment,and doing the airport for 17 lids

  79. true dub

    No problem, I have been critical of Ttnh mainly over street protests which I think are counter productive, but I also have said good things about some of the work they have done, they have had a lot of meetings and are very involved on the issue of the ranks, and I would encourage every driver to join a Rep body and make their voices heard.

  80. bohemian boy

    no TD again i was not talking about youbeing critical of TTNH, the rat changes his position like the weather and i was just pointing this out to him as he had accused me of being contradictory

  81. Ben

    true dub those 13,000 staff that Kelly has don’t care a toss about the taxi industry, another reason its in such a mess.
    boh I have noticed that rat seems to be in favour of illegal ranks, almost as if they are legal at times. you cant have it both ways.

  82. true dub

    You have to think it on to another step as to why those 13,000 authorised officers dont give a toss, in relation to illegal ranks Rat only points out the obvious that there always have been illegal ranks and while the industry continues to be in a chaotic state of oversupply those illegal ranks become more obvious and more of a problem for traffic flow, you have to make the issue of illegal ranks and oversupply a problem for the decision makers.

  83. Ben

    over supply is the greatest problem the industry faces right now. its become a joke the amount of taxis out there, bumper to bumper. wheres the work supposed to come from ?

  84. bohemian boy

    even though the illegal ranking has been the norm for centuries,according to rat,that does not make it right. of course i got slated for expressing my opinion,and was informed that i am only 5 mins in the industry.

  85. true dub

    Stating the obvious does not necessarily mean that the poster agrees with the situation.
    Ben read the first line of the comment I made to BB on the 5th

  86. sclass

    The ESB are putting a gun to the government s head .All out strike for the 16 December.
    If taxi drivers had any balls they would do the same .A mass ply for hire Until the issue of over supply is dealt with. A slow drive on the airport road.And what about the public do they give a fukk about us.
    All the talk the meetings the emails .A load of bollox.
    Kelly is a two faced fukk.

  87. bohemian boy

    sclass i can tell you that i asked somebody who is very close to the action to ask Kelly when he intends to implement the bill. the answer my man got from Kelly was, that at the moment the gardai are being trained to deal with illegal taxis,and when this training is completed, that there will be so much enforcement of the rules that the feet of the illegal operators wont touch the ground. dont know wether you believe that or not,but that is what i have been told

  88. true dub

    Great idea Sclass, how many can be counted on for the mass ply for hire, (the part-timers will be out in force working) how long should the mass ply for hire go on for, apart from the airport road (which one) where should the mass ply for hire go to

  89. Ben

    boh I hope that info about gardai and enforcement is correct, it would be a huge help. hope they intend to seize all illegal vehicles, and crush them. show no mercy.

  90. bohemian boy

    the best option of all is for taxis to desend on the likes of merrion square, fitzwilliam square, etc etc and fill every available parking birth where the suit brigade park their cars every morning when they come into the city. they will have nowhere to park, the taxis are not doing anything illegal, and best of all you are not pissing off the traveling public. the suit brigade will haunt the minister to sort it out as they cannot do their business in the city and the problem will be sorted in no time

  91. true dub

    Sclass if the object of the exercise is for taxi drivers to muck up traffic in the city you dont need 100 drivers wasting expensive fuel driving nowhere, there are much easier ways to achieve the same objective.

  92. sclass

    We all wast expensive fuel every day looking for work
    It’s time for protest whatever that might be.Or where it may be or how long it takes one or two hours a day .don’t get hungup on negative.Start with positive …..PROTEST.

  93. bohemian boy

    Ben Mick Flynn who owns all of the businesses mentioned does indeed drive a taxi himself as well as having another 35 of them on the road.this man is widely known in dublin by the drivers who constantly give him the fingers,but he just smiles at them he doesnt give a boll.x. he is in the bank in artaine every monday lodging the hard earned money his crew of renters handed over.

  94. Ben

    Boh he sounds like a really nice guy. if I had drivers giving me the fingers, I would quit the business completely. while kind of fools are his renters.

  95. sidewinder

    the kinda fools who dont want to leave a paper trail ,mick flynn gets his rent and the renter gets his dole,and the dublin bus driver gets his new car,road saftey dont make me laugh.

  96. Ben

    sounds like a perfect arrangement for all concerned, and Flynn has his big lodgement for tomorrow. Dublin bus driver can well afford a new car, but we cant because we work sensible and safe hours. road safety is a thing of the past in taxi land.

  97. chester

    Here’s a number that was working the streets of Dublin last night 62381 don’t know the make of the car or reg number because he took off when he realised I was checking him out who was it that said ‘Ireland will lead the rest of Europe in the taxi industry and the way it will be run’ ?

  98. Ben

    true dub i read that article, very interesting. nothing showing up for 62381, now why am i not surprised. wonder what nationality he was.

  99. true dub

    Chester it is an interesting article given the factual errors from one of our most eminent economic experts, anyhow you may need to get your eyes tested before your next licence renewal after posting that licence number.

  100. chester

    @true dub I don’t need corrective vision aide for reading writing or driving if someone chooses to put that number on their roof sign then it is his ignorance of the taxi industry and the lack of enforcement therein that allows him to do so if it’s still a case that you don’t trust my vision then allow me to give you another roof sign number as witness if you require.

  101. Ben

    these people know theres no enforcement, and just how much they can get away with. if only he had the brains to clone a lower number, no one would have noticed him. theres lots of it going on out there.

  102. ger

    Can anybody give me one good reason why taxis cant use the bus lane on earlsfort terrace at night time EG AFTER THE BUSES HAVE STOPPED RUNNING. it would save drivers having to go on to leeson street and adding to more traffic down on that street. Anybody got any ideas?

  103. bohemian boy

    just reading over on the forum about hailo increasing their take from 10% to 12%. i couldnt believe it when one poster said they take a % of the drivers tip as well. please tell me he is joking.surely they dont take anything from your tip ? if they do,then that is an absolute disgrace.when someone gives you a tip they would be shocked to learn that hailo take a % of it.i was recently talking to some customers from PWC who stopped using Ebbs when they heard its the driver that takes the hit on the discount,and not the radio company.they were absolutely shocked,and said they will never use his company again. i have now been telling everyone about this,and most were astonished. they always thought it was the radio company that gave them the discount and when i explained that the radio company takes the credit, while the driver takes the hit, their reaction was pure shock

  104. Ben

    hard to find a good garage, the bigger the worse I find. I deal with a man who works from a small simple shed, one lad working for him. his work is good and prices very fair. those big fancy garages would rob ya.
    if hailo start taking a slice of drivers tips, they will go the same road as radio companies. only for the few bob tips we would not survive.

  105. Ben

    boh they cannot legally take a slice of any drivers tips. a tip is given for appreciation of good service, and is not a part of a fare in any way.
    hailo can only take a % of the metered fare.

  106. ger

    Hailo do take 10% of tips. Is this legal? . As for just putting in just the fare, on card accounts the tip is preset by the customer, so it just comes up when you enter the fare ( if they give you one, a lot dont). Im getting a lot of messers with hailo the past couple of months. I dont use the app that much anymore. Its only busy when the streets are busy. 6500 drivers on the app now. Way to many. Still its a handy little app to have. It can give you jobs out in the burbs at all hours. 88% of 20 euro is still better than 100% of nothing.

  107. bohemian boy

    Ger i would say that the public would be absolutely disgusted if they knew hailo took any part of the drivers tip.they certainly were in PWC when they learned that the driver takes the discount hit,while Ebbs takes the credit for giving a discount. i think every driver should make people aware of this,especially independent drivers

  108. Ben

    its up to all drivers to tell hailo not to touch the tips. remind hailo that drivers can boycott them very easily. that would change their tune.

  109. bohemian boy

    im afraid the end may be near for independents.it seems unless you are with a radio company,or with hailo,your days in the game are numbered. independents had a chance to orginize themselves before it got to this stage,but they blew it. they had no interest in telling their reps in TTNH to make sure they had a voice.now its only a matter of time till they are gone altogether.how can an independent survive when nearly every taxi user is using hailo,or a radio company,or some other app.? how many times have you passed by someone standing on the side of the road and you just know they are waiting for a taxi but no hand comes out you look in your rear view mirror only to see the hailo taxi behind you pulling in. this is the way it is going to remain im afraid,and no doubt get even worse for independents. im afraid i will go down with my ship though, i will NEVER allow any radio company to tell me what to wear,what to charge, and reprimand me for giving back heavily discounted work that THEY negociated the price for

  110. ger

    Hailo is going to wipe all those filthbag radio companys off the face of the planet. People are not walkingto ranks anymore. Why should they? Tap ur app and ur joe is on the way. Change with the time or get left behind. Simple.

  111. Ben

    boh your last post scared me, the thought of having to join any radio company is a nono for me.
    ger has a good point about hailo, looks like its the only option for any independent driver. time to sign up i think.

  112. bohemian boy

    Ben i agree fully with Ger, i did not mean to scare you but i really do believe this is the way things will pan out in the end. i also believe,and hope hailo do indeed wipe the floor with these towrag radio companies who think the drivers are their employees. worst still some drivers are so instutionalised that they themselves believe they are the employees of these sc,mbags. i think there is now a waiting list to join hailo

  113. Ben

    Boh you are right, hailo will hurt the radio companies, some of them will not survive when drivers wake up to the way they are being treated. paying a small fee per job is very fair. if your coming in from the suburbs empty, its nice to get a job somewhere along the way. I call it the bit of cream.
    something on the paper few days ago about hailo rolling out nationwide, seems to be a good move. still don’t think they should take any of the tips though.

  114. bohemian boy

    Ben i checked it out with the competition authority if it is legal for hailo to take a % of a drivers tip, but they kicked it to touch saying its nothing to do with them. i will publish their official reply later

  115. Ben

    boh they don’t know the answer, that’s the reality. legal advice is the only way to clarify the situation. taking a slice of tips is really mean.

  116. bohemian boy

    this is the competition authority response
    The particulars of any contractual monetary arrangement between a taxi dispatch operator and their drivers is not something that can be considered under competition law, outside of arrangements that may have the effect of hindering competition between taxis to the detriment of consumers. In this instance, which party to the contract receives a gratuity (or part thereof) from a customer is not an issue for competition law.

    As such, the Competition Authority is not in a position to investigate this issue.

    Yours sincerely

    Malachy Fox
    Monopolies Division
    Competition Authority
    14 Parnell Square
    Dublin 1
    Tel: +353 1 8045422
    Fax: +353 1 8045401

  117. bohemian boy

    i would suggest that the drivers must have signed up to this,in the same way radio company drivers signed up to allowing Ebbs,Kelly,and Kearns to tell them what to wear, what to charge, and to reprimand them for giving back heavily discounted work. maybe i am wrong,but i doubt it

  118. bohemian boy

    do drivers who take credit cards realize they are losing a fortune in tips ? it stands to reason. put yourself in the customers position for a moment. you have just been dropped off at your destination and you present the driver with a credit card as a means of payment. because there is no actual cash changing hands, you only feel obliged to pay the metered fare,where in the case of a cash transaction,in the event you hand the driver a tenner for a eight euro fare you will almost certainly say keep the change. yet drivers kick off about hailo taking a % of their tip, if you stop and think about,because of your willingness to take credit card jobs, you are in effect doing yourself out of a lot more then the 10% being charged by hailo in the first place. i personally think drivers should be looking to get rid of credit card jobs,and go back to the conventional way of doing business.cash is king

  119. Ben

    cash is king ok, but hailo should be happy with their fee, without taking another cut. maybe drivers have signed up to this, and don’t realise it. read the small print as always.

  120. bohemian boy

    Ben because drivers in both radio companies,and hailo ,and other apps accept credit cards,they are losing a small fortune in tips. people are far less likely to give a tip on a credit card then they would if they were parting with cash. surely the drivers should be trying to get their companies to do away with the use of credit cards for payment.

  121. bohemian boy

    the information on the forum regarding the rural hackneys is completely wrong. the situation is that,at a meeting of the taxi advisory committie which took place fairly recently,it was agreed by all attendees,that a pilot scheme would be put in place.this scheme would see a very small number of licences operating,and will be constantly reviewed. in addition anyone who will hold one of these licences will not also be the holder of a current psv licence.

  122. Ben

    this rural hack idea is all bullshit, just typical Alan Kelly. time for him and a lot of cronies to move on. how would anyone make a living in a rural area with a hack. few bob at the weekends if you are lucky. nothing during the week, your phone might ring twice. drive all over the parish for a fiver. Kelly needs to tidy up the taxi industry, and get all the dangerous part time scabs, and illegal scum off the road. but he does not have the will to do either. Kelly is a disgrace.

  123. Ben

    UK are to introduce a test for migrants before they qualify for benefits. the days of the free for all handouts are over. when will our gobshites do the same. and the UK don’t hand out keys of social houses like mars bars. David Cameron is way smarter then Enda Kenny, but we already knew that.

  124. bohemian boy

    the NTA have carried out absolutely no promotion of the driver check app to the public.this is bad for independents. intending passengers are less likely to use a taxi that is not aligned,or traceable because they are unaware of the availability of such an app as driver check.any time i have asked customers if they were aware of this app, their answer was always the same,oh is that the hailo app ? the one that shows you a photo of the driver ? when i tell them that the NTA have a similar app for security purposes they tell me they did not know about it.this is unfair to independent drivers,but then again the NTA have made no secret of the fact that they want us all aligned.this is also the reason any new rules they make will ALWAYS favour those towrag radio companies

  125. ger

    There are at LEAST 1,000 more taxis on the streets of dublin now than this time last year. This is because drivers are buying plates from all around the country and bringing them into dublin to work them. Its gone beyond a fooking joke now. And how many of them are part of the 30,000 illegal immigrants that the indo says are living and working in ireland. Do we even have an immigration policy in this country? Its seems to me anybody can come and live here no matter where they are from. The amount of indians and pakistains driving taxis in dublin is a disgrace. They are not part of the eu,so why do we have so many of them here? We all know how the other bunch of scammers got in,with their made up stories of bullshit, and a welfare system that gave them everything, while our own people leave by the planeload. This country is fast turning in a dumping ground for the trash of the world.

  126. Ben

    Ger the country is like a landfill site, dump all the shite you can find into it. people with no legal right to be in this country are here working illegally, and claiming welfare at the same time. politicians shouting about the bail out exit. total tossers, the grief is only starting here. all the money has to be repaid, we dont own our own country anymore.
    welfare for non irish people has to stop.end of.

  127. Ben

    UK will insist that migrants speak English, or no benefits. we must do the same, demand that they speak English, and Irish. its our country we can decide who comes here, and vetting system needs to be amended. country is full of foreign criminals. they walk through the airport, no one stops them.

  128. Ben

    we need someone to get tough on these scroungers right now. this country is broke, we done have any money to waste. we will be back begging from the eu/imf all over again.

  129. kevin

    as a taxi driver workin in letterkenny with about 90 taxis and 20 black drivers i asked ataxi driver workin in derry with over 800 taxis why no black guys he told me there was one indian guy but no one would get in with him so he gave it up fair play to the derry people

  130. Ben

    and theres not one of them in enniskillen either, local people here are very loyal to their own drivers. also council houses , benefits etc are for their own people here, not strangers who come from the other side of the world looking for handouts.

  131. bohemian boy

    i cant believe Roy over on the forum.he is actually praising Ebbs for doing away with the discounts. it was that bastard that introduced them in the first place. how the fukk does Ebbs deserve credit for something the DRIVERS gave ? Ebbs gave the public nothing Roy, so could you please explain why he deserves credit when it was the DRIVERS who gave the discounts ? i am also delighted to see that global are worried enough by hailo to start making changes. it is a sure sign that these leeches Kearns, Ebbs, Kelly, etc etc are in trouble when they are making changes to their structures. they obviously cannot keep the drivers. i cant wait till the day i am reading in the sunday business post that these towrags who think they are the drivers employers go bust, and the sc,mbag base controllers are out of a job

  132. Roy Post author

    I give credit when it’s due, I knocked him for introducing discounts, I give him credit for removing them, if drivers don’t appreciate the effort why shouldn’t he revert back to the discount model? is that what you want?

  133. bohemian boy

    Roy when will you ever learn, Ebbs never ever give a discount,the so called self employed drivers who work under the banner of his company did. why should that bastard be given credit for removing discounts that HE introduced,at the DRIVERS expense. its like me saying my wife is very generous, she would give you my last pound. i am completely puzzled as to how you believe that fukking dictator deserves any credit.the quicker hailo wipe the floor with ALL those sc,mbag radio companies the better.its a well known fact that years ago a lot of dodgy money was invested in these towrag radio companies,and the sc,m that made the investment is still actively involved in the running of them. i would love some investigative journilist to go digging, i would say the revelations would be front page news

  134. Ben

    cannot understand anyone praising radio co’s for removing discounts. they forced these cuts onto drivers, who struggle to make a living. hailo will sort them all in time, and hopefully wipe them out.
    boh get that info about dodgy funding passed to newspapers, someone will follow up on it. that could be explosive.

  135. Roy Post author

    I never said he gave discounts, I said he introduced them, now he’s removing them, that deserves credit.
    Mandela once said “you don’t make peace with your friends, you make peace with your enemies”, if they make steps towards friendship that should be acknowledged, finding fault simply because you hate them gets you nowhere.
    Do you believe he should be knocked for removing the discounts or that it should go unacknowledged?
    Don’t you want other dispatchers to follow suit?

  136. Ben

    customers see him as the one who gave the discounts, not the drivers. but then its the drivers who suffer the hit. all radio co drivers should wise up, and refuse to give discounts, as the running costs are now too high. and too much illegal competition out there making it harder for any full time irish driver to survive. but of course they have their dole/welfare etc to rely on. sick country.

  137. bohemian boy

    Roy absolutely no credit is due to Ebbs,or any other sc,mbag radio company.least of all from independent drivers like myself who these bastards would love to get rid of. it is a fact that a number of years ago, one such towrag owner came on the radio and announced to the world that any taxi driver operating without a radio was probably doing so illegally. the NTA also continue to make rules to suit these sc,mbags unfairly in my opinion.is it not a fact that miss Doyle stated quite clearly [when she was regulator] that she wanted us all aligned to this sc,m ? did minister Kelly not make a similar statement ? hell would freeze over before i would ever join one of these dictators who think they are the drivers employers.Ben is also right when he says the public think it is Ebbs who gives the discount, only recently i had a customer from PWC who told she would never use Ebbs company again because she always thought it was he who gave the discount,and not the driver.come on hailo take the student market ,and corporate business from these leeches now

  138. Ben

    savage cuts coming in the health service, and thousands of medical cards to be revoked. i wonder what nationality will suffer most here. cuts of over 600 million have to hust somewhere. bet the irish card holders will be hit first, whats new.

  139. bohemian boy

    i just watched the farmers on the 6 01 news. they came out in protest at their livilhoods being stolen from them by discounters. should we, independent drivers not do the same against king of the discounting sc,m Ebbs ?

  140. Ben

    we would have lots of reasons to protest, but farmers are a united group. and they scare politicians when they protest. they get handouts if they have a bad crop. what do we get ?? laughed at .
    we should have lots of clout, there is so many of us now, but we are not organised properly.a protest, for example, should be an all out protest, but some scabs will always work on.

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